Daniel Pearl and the Normalization of Evil
When will our luminaries stop making excuses for terror?
By JUDEA PEARL
This week marks the seventh anniversary of the murder of our son, former
Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl. My wife Ruth and I wonder: Would
Danny have believed that today's world emerged after his tragedy?
WSJ
February 2, 2009
The answer does not come easily. Danny was an optimist, a true believer in
the goodness of mankind. Yet he was also a realist, and would not let
idealism bend the harshness of facts.
Neither he, nor the millions who were shocked by his murder, could have
possibly predicted that seven years later his abductor, Omar Saeed Sheikh,
according to several South Asian reports, would be planning terror acts from
the safety of a Pakistani jail. Or that his murderer, Khalid Sheikh
Mohammed, now in Guantanamo, would proudly boast of his murder in a military
tribunal in March 2007 to the cheers of sympathetic jihadi supporters. Or
that this ideology of barbarism would be celebrated in European and American
universities, fueling rally after rally for Hamas, Hezbollah and other
heroes of "the resistance." Or that another kidnapped young man, Israeli
Gilad Shalit, would spend his 950th day of captivity with no Red Cross
visitation while world leaders seriously debate whether his kidnappers
deserve international recognition.
No. Those around the world who mourned for Danny in 2002 genuinely hoped
that Danny's murder would be a turning point in the history of man's
inhumanity to man, and that the targeting of innocents to transmit political
messages would quickly become, like slavery and human sacrifice, an
embarrassing relic of a bygone era.
But somehow, barbarism, often cloaked in the language of "resistance," has
gained acceptance in the most elite circles of our society. The words "war
on terror" cannot be uttered today without fear of offense. Civilized
society, so it seems, is so numbed by violence that it has lost its gift to
be disgusted by evil.
I believe it all started with well-meaning analysts, who in their zeal to
find creative solutions to terror decided that terror is not a real enemy,
but a tactic. Thus the basic engine that propels acts of terrorism -- the
ideological license to elevate one's grievances above the norms of civilized
society -- was wished away in favor of seemingly more manageable "tactical"
considerations.
This mentality of surrender then worked its way through politicians like the
former mayor of London, Ken Livingstone. In July 2005 he told Sky News that
suicide bombing is almost man's second nature. "In an unfair balance, that's
what people use," explained Mr. Livingstone.
But the clearest endorsement of terror as a legitimate instrument of
political bargaining came from former President Jimmy Carter. In his book
"Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid," Mr. Carter appeals to the sponsors of
suicide bombing. "It is imperative that the general Arab community and all
significant Palestinian groups make it clear that they will end the suicide
bombings and other acts of terrorism when international laws and the
ultimate goals of the Road-map for Peace are accepted by Israel." Acts of
terror, according to Mr. Carter, are no longer taboo, but effective tools
for terrorists to address perceived injustices.
Mr. Carter's logic has become the dominant paradigm in rationalizing terror.
When asked what Israel should do to stop Hamas's rockets aimed at innocent
civilians, the Syrian first lady, Asma Al-Assad, did not hesitate for a
moment in her response: "They should end the occupation." In other words,
terror must earn a dividend before it is stopped.
The media have played a major role in handing terrorism this victory of
acceptability. Qatari-based Al Jazeera television, for example, is still
providing Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi hours of free air time each week to spew
his hateful interpretation of the Koran, authorize suicide bombing, and call
for jihad against Jews and Americans.
Then came the August 2008 birthday of Samir Kuntar, the unrepentant killer
who, in 1979, smashed the head of a four-year-old Israeli girl with his
rifle after killing her father before her eyes. Al Jazeera elevated Kuntar
to heroic heights with orchestras, fireworks and sword dances, presenting
him to 50 million viewers as Arab society's role model. No mainstream
Western media outlet dared to expose Al Jazeera efforts to warp its young
viewers into the likes of Kuntar. Al Jazeera's management continues to
receive royal treatment in all major press clubs.
Some American pundits and TV anchors didn't seem much different from Al
Jazeera in their analysis of the recent war in Gaza. Bill Moyers was quick
to lend Hamas legitimacy as a "resistance" movement, together with honorary
membership in PBS's imaginary "cycle of violence." In his Jan. 9 TV show,
Mr. Moyers explained to his viewers that "each [side] greases the cycle of
violence, as one man's terrorism becomes another's resistance to
oppression." He then stated -- without blushing -- that for readers of the
Hebrew Bible "God-soaked violence became genetically coded." The "cycle of
violence" platitude allows analysts to empower terror with the guise of
reciprocity, and, amazingly, indict terror's victims for violence as
immutable as DNA.
When we ask ourselves what it is about the American psyche that enables
genocidal organizations like Hamas -- the charter of which would offend
every neuron in our brains -- to become tolerated in public discourse, we
should take a hard look at our universities and the way they are currently
being manipulated by terrorist sympathizers.
At my own university, UCLA, a symposium last week on human rights turned
into a Hamas recruitment rally by a clever academic gimmick. The director of
the Center for Near East Studies carefully selected only Israel bashers for
the panel, each of whom concluded that the Jewish state is the greatest
criminal in human history.
The primary purpose of the event was evident the morning after, when
unsuspecting, uninvolved students read an article in the campus newspaper
titled, "Scholars say: Israel is in violation of human rights in Gaza," to
which the good name of the University of California was attached. This is
where Hamas scored its main triumph -- another inch of academic
respectability, another inroad into Western minds.
Danny's picture is hanging just in front of me, his warm smile as reassuring
as ever. But I find it hard to look him straight in the eyes and say: You
did not die in vain.
Mr. Pearl, a professor of computer science at UCLA, is president of the
Daniel Pearl Foundation, founded in memory of his son to promote
cross-cultural understanding.
Thanks to Susan & Terri for this article.
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Do not under any circumstances come to Australia, for we are a Nation founded upon Judeo Christian Law and principles and as such Australia is an anathema to any follower of the Paedophile Slave Trader Mohammad's cult of Islam.
There is no ideology more hated and despised in Australia than Islam.You simply would not like it here.
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Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
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Those who demand you believe that Islam is a Religion of Peace also demand you believe in Anthropogenic Global Warming.
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“ If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival.
“There may be even a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than live as slaves”
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This matters above everything.
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'a socialist is communist without the courage of conviction to say what he really is'.
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When those sworn to destroy you,Communism, Socialism,"Change you can Believe in" via their rabid salivating Mongrel Dog,Islam,take away your humanity, your God given Sanctity of Life, Created in His Image , If you are lucky this prayer is maybe all you have left, If you believe in God and his Son,Jesus Christ, then you are, despite the evils that may befall you are better off than most.
Lord, I come before You with a heavy heart. I feel so much and yet sometimes I feel nothing at all. I don't know where to turn, who to talk to, or how to deal with the things going on in my life. You see everything, Lord. You know everything, Lord. Yet when I seek you it is so hard to feel You here with me. Lord, help me through this. I don't see any other way to get out of this. There is no light at the end of my tunnel, yet everyone says You can show it to me. Lord, help me find that light. Let it be Your light. Give me someone to help. Let me feel You with me. Lord, let me see what You provide and see an alternative to taking my life. Let me feel Your blessings and comfort. Amen.
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"The chief weapon in the quiver of all Islamist expansionist movements, is the absolute necessity to keep victims largely unaware of the actual theology plotting their demise. To complete this deception, a large body of ‘moderates’ continue to spew such ridiculous claims as “Islam means Peace” thereby keeping non-Muslims from actually reading the Qur’an, the Sira, the Hadith, or actually looking into the past 1400 years of history. Islamists also deny or dismiss the concept of ‘abrogation’, which is the universal intra-Islamic method of replacing slightly more tolerable aspects of the religion in favor of more violent demands for Muslims to slay and subdue infidels"
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Thursday, February 05, 2009
Wednesday, February 04, 2009
Pakistan:Man abducted and raped by three women over for days.
Three women kidnap, drug and rape a man for four days
"“his condition is really bad ... his genitals are bleeding and he cannot walk properly.”
" the women belonged to rich families of Karachi’s Clifton area.
“It’s a complicated case ... but we are hoping that we will solve it soon,” he added. "
Strewth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Daily Telegraph
February 04, 2009 12:00am
POLICE are hunting for three women who kidnapped a man, drugged and raped him over four consecutive days before throwing him into a river in the Pakistani city of Karachi.
A 23-year-old man, known as Khalil, recently arrived in Karachi to live and picked up work as a waiter at a restaurant in the ritzy suburb of Clifton.
On the night of January 27, Khalil was sent to deliver food to a group of women sitting a car in the restaurant’s car park.
“I took the order to the car where the women – two of whom were young and the third was middle-aged – told me that they had recently shifted to the area,” Khalil told the Daily Times.
He said the women wanted him to deliver the food to their house every day and he agreed.
“They asked me to go along with them in the car ... they said they wanted to show me where their house was,” he said.
When they arrived at the house Khalil claims that “they gave me milk that had some drug mixed in it ... I fell unconscious after drinking it”.
Khalil said when he gained consciousness, he found that the women had undressed him, “and they were forcing themselves onto me”.
A police officer said the women assaulted Khalil sexually for the next four days, and then threw him near Qayyumabad River.
After making it to a nearby hospital a policeman said that Khalil’s “his condition is really bad ... his genitals are bleeding and he cannot walk properly.”
The officer said the women belonged to rich families of Karachi’s Clifton area.
“It’s a complicated case ... but we are hoping that we will solve it soon,” he added.
"“his condition is really bad ... his genitals are bleeding and he cannot walk properly.”
" the women belonged to rich families of Karachi’s Clifton area.
“It’s a complicated case ... but we are hoping that we will solve it soon,” he added. "
Strewth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Daily Telegraph
February 04, 2009 12:00am
POLICE are hunting for three women who kidnapped a man, drugged and raped him over four consecutive days before throwing him into a river in the Pakistani city of Karachi.
A 23-year-old man, known as Khalil, recently arrived in Karachi to live and picked up work as a waiter at a restaurant in the ritzy suburb of Clifton.
On the night of January 27, Khalil was sent to deliver food to a group of women sitting a car in the restaurant’s car park.
“I took the order to the car where the women – two of whom were young and the third was middle-aged – told me that they had recently shifted to the area,” Khalil told the Daily Times.
He said the women wanted him to deliver the food to their house every day and he agreed.
“They asked me to go along with them in the car ... they said they wanted to show me where their house was,” he said.
When they arrived at the house Khalil claims that “they gave me milk that had some drug mixed in it ... I fell unconscious after drinking it”.
Khalil said when he gained consciousness, he found that the women had undressed him, “and they were forcing themselves onto me”.
A police officer said the women assaulted Khalil sexually for the next four days, and then threw him near Qayyumabad River.
After making it to a nearby hospital a policeman said that Khalil’s “his condition is really bad ... his genitals are bleeding and he cannot walk properly.”
The officer said the women belonged to rich families of Karachi’s Clifton area.
“It’s a complicated case ... but we are hoping that we will solve it soon,” he added.
Woman organizes rape of 80 women to later recruite as suicide bombers
Iraqi woman had 80 women raped then recruited as suicide bombers
From correspondents in Baghdad News.com.au February 04, 2009 09:15am
A WOMAN suspected of recruiting more than 80 female suicide bombers has confessed to organising their rapes so she could later convince them that martyrdom was the only way to escape the shame.
Samira Jassam, 51, was arrested by Iraqi police and confessed to recruiting the women and orchestrating dozens of attacks. In a video confession, she explained how she had mentally prepared the women for martyrdom operations, passed them on to terrorists who provided explosives, and then took the bombers to their targets.
"We arrested Samira Jassim, known as 'Um al-Mumenin', the mother of the believers, who was responsible for recruiting 80 women'', Major General Qassim Atta said. "She confessed her responsibility for these actions, and she confirmed that 28 attempts had been made in one of the terrorists' strongholds,'' he said. Samira Jassim was arrested on January 21. She is allegedly linked to the Ansar al-Sunnah insurgent group.
Two of the attacks for which Samira Jassim admitted responsibility in the video confession took place in Diyala province, in central Iraq, which is considered one of the most dangerous areas of the country. The Associated Press reports US military figures indicate at least 36 female suicide bombers attempted or carried out 32 attacks last year. Women are often allowed through military checkpoints without being searched, making it easier for them to hide explosives under their traditional robes.
Tuesday, February 03, 2009
Muslim Terror leader Abdul Nacer Benbrika,gets 15 years
Australian terrorist leader gets 15 years
Mex Cooper
News.com.au
February 3, 2009
The leader of a Melbourne-based terrorist cell has been sentenced to 15 years' jail.
Abdul Nacer Benbrika, 48, of Dallas, was sentenced to a non-parole period of 12 years. He has already been in custody for 1184 days.
Justice Bernard Bongiorno in the Supreme Court said a terrorist organisation led by Benbrika had been dedicated to the destruction of non-believers but the group had not planned specific attacks despite the evidence of a key prosecution witness.
Benbrika became the first Australian to be convicted of leading a terrorist group last September, following the country's biggest terrorism trial that lasted seven months and cost tens of millions of dollars.
The father-of-seven faced a maximum 25 years' prison for directing the terrorist group that the jury heard had discussed attacking Melbourne's Crown Casino and bombing the MCG.
Benbrika was also convicted of possessing a compact disc connected to the preparation of a terrorist act.
But in sentencing Benbrika and six of his followers today, Justice Bongiorno said he did not accept the evidence of Izzydeen Atik, who claimed Benbrika told him the terror cell had planned to target the casino on Grand Prix weekend in 2006 and the MCG on grand final day in 2005 and the 2006 NAB Cup.
Atik had been a member of the group before pleading guilty to belonging to a terrorist organisation in July 2007 and was jailed for just over four years.
Justice Bongiorno said Atik was a liar and a cheat who had defrauded the social security system while living in a luxury townhouse and employing a butler.
At the time, he was earning thousands of dollars a month from a credit card scam, the court heard.
But Justice Bongiorno said the terror group had still posed a "significant threat" and might have carried out a terrorist attack if not stopped.
He said the men had committed serious crimes but not as serious as if Atik's evidence had been accepted.
Benbrika used warped teachings of Islam to recruit his young followers and encourage them to wage violent jihad against "non-believers" in Australia.
Justice Bongiorno said that, although the word jihad had many meanings in Islam, Benbrika used the term only to mean a violent attack by his group to advance the Islamic cause.
He said Benbrika had admired Osama bin Laden and believed that killing people and destroying buildings was justified as it would help pressure the Australian Government into withdrawing troops from Iraq and leaving the American alliance.
The court heard Benbrika had told one of his followers, Abdullah Merhi, not just to kill a few people but to "do a big thing".
Merhi had responded "like Spain", in reference to terrorist attacks on Madrid, Justice Bongiorno said.
In May 2004, a Victorian undercover police officer posing as a Turkish Muslim man had infiltrated the group.
Five months later, he offered to show Benbrika how to make explosives and took Benbrika to a remote bush location north of Melbourne where he detonated a device.
Benbrika asked how much explosive would be needed to blow up buildings and homes but did not ask the undercover agent to get him any of the bomb-making ingredients or tell any of the other members of the group about the demonstration.
Six of Benbrika's followers also received prison terms.
Aimen Joud, 24, of Hoppers Crossing, has been jailed for a minimum of 7½ years.
Abdullah Merhi, 23, of Fawkner, must serve a minimum of four years in prison.
Ahmed Raad, 25, Fawkner, will be required to serve a minimum of 7½ years.
Amer Haddara, 29, of Yarraville, was sentenced to a minimum of 4½ years.
Fadl Sayadi, 29, of Coburg, was sentenced to a minimum of six years' prison.
Ezzit Raad, 27, from Preston, must serve five years and nine months.
Justice Bongiorno said that, under terrorism laws, those charged with offences had criminal liability earlier than in other criminal cases.
Remy van de Wiel, QC, had argued at presentence hearings that Benbrika's sentence should be tempered because he suffered from depression and an undiagnosed medical condition which caused him to have "embarrassing involuntary movements" and would make his prison time more stressful.
He said Benbrika had not properly led the group, which had never grown beyond an "embryonic terrorist organisation".
But Justice Bongiorno said that, by its existence and nature, the organisation had fostered in its members the desire to commit terrorist activities.
He said the evidence suggested that Benbrika was still committed to violent jihad, had shown no contrition for his offences and had talked about continuing the group's activities behind bars if its members were jailed.
Benbrika was arrested in November 2005.
More thoughts from this member of the "Religion of Peace & Tolerance"
The AGE
August 5 2005
"According to my religion, here, I don't accept all other religion except the religion of Islam.""I am telling you that my religion doesn't tolerate other religion. It doesn't tolerate. The only one law which needs to spread, it can be here or anywhere else, has to be Islam."
"Jihad is a part of my religion and what you have to understand (is) that anyone who fight for this sake of Allah . . . when he dies, the first drop of blood that comes from him . . . all his sin will be forgiven."
He described Osama bin Laden as "a great man. Osama bin Laden was a great man before 11 September, which they said he did . . . and until now nobody knows who did it".
Step-by-step al-Qa'ida terror guide used by Benbrika cell
Gary Hughes September 20, 2008
The Australian
IT was a blueprint for terror. Seized by police from the home of one of the alleged ringleaders of the Benbrika Muslim terror ring, it was al-Qa'ida's chilling step-by-step guide on how to build a terrorist cell, avoid detection, conduct training, obtain weapons, select targets and launch attacks.
It was one of at least two such instruction manuals that, according to authorities, were used by self-proclaimed Melbourne cleric Abdul Nacer Benbrika, 48, to set up and run his secret group.
One, which was also found in the hands of an al-Qa'ida member by British police, begins by setting down the three main principles essential to setting up a group: a commander and a leadership advisory council; individual members or "soldiers"; and a clearly defined strategy.
The primary mission of the group should be "the overthrow of the godless regimes and their replacement with an Islamic regime", the manual says.
Other missions are listed as "assassinating enemy personnel as well as foreign tourists" and "blasting and destroying the places of amusement, immorality and sin".
The manual was seized during a police raid on one of Benbrika's trusted lieutenants in June 2005. He was one of six of the fanatical religious leader's followers convicted alongside Benbrika this week of belonging to a terrorist organisation.
The manual, originally in Arabic when found on a computer by British police, had been translated into English for use in a later terrorist trial in the US. It was the English language version that was found in the Melbourne raid and later presented to the jury as a prosecution exhibit.
According to the manual, terror cell recruits had to be Muslims able to follow strict orders and "willing to do the work and undergo martyrdom for the purpose of establishing the religion of majestic Allah on Earth".
They also had to be able to "endure psychological trauma, such as those involving bloodshed, murder, arrest, imprisonment and reverse psychological traumas such as killing one or all of his organisation's comrades".
Operational funds had to be gathered, but kept hidden in scattered locations to avoid their being seized by authorities.
There were detailed instructions about maintaining security within the group, including using secret identification signals, selecting safe houses and avoiding the scrutiny of law enforcement agencies.
Paramilitary training of recruits should be done secretly in groups of no more than 10 at remote locations and care had to be taken when buying weapons to avoid being seen or ripped off.
They were lessons that Benbrika, who this week became the first person in Australia to be convicted of leading a terrorist organisation, apparently learned well.
The seven-month Victorian Supreme Court trial was told the self-proclaimed sheik, also known as Abu Bakr, chose three of the group to form his trusted advisory council to help lead the group, as laid out in the manual.
Fadl Sayadi, 28, was the group's security and intelligence officer; Ahmed Raad, 25, was the treasurer; and Aimen Joud, 23, was Benbrika's trusted adviser, the jury was told.
Funds to finance the group were raised through stealing cars to strip them for parts, and credit card fraud committed against non-Muslims, under a special religious ruling, or fatwa, issued by Benbrika.
One alleged training camp was held on a remote property in outback NSW in March 2005.
Joud, Sayadi and Raad were kept under surveillance by police as they drove to the remote campsite. A Belgian .308 rifle that forensic tests showed had been used at the site during the target shooting was later seized from another man associated with the Benbrika cell.
The group's mission, according to senior Crown prosecutor Richard Maidment SC, was to wage violent jihad on Australian soil to force the Howard government into withdrawing troops from Iraq and Afghanistan.
According to one Crown witness, potential targets included the AFL grand final at the crowded MCG in 2005 or Melbourne's Crown casino during Grand Prix weekend in 2006.
Among the group's recruits were Abdullah Merhi, 23, who had allegedly offered himself to Benbrika as a suicide bomber, and Haddara, who told police after his arrest he wished to become a mujaheddin and wage jihad as an Islamic holy warrior.
Members of Benbrika's group were taught that they would be regarded as Islamic martyrs if they died, and were instructed on how to be an "effective member of the organisation so that they were capable of going into a situation where a terrorist act was to be actually perpetrated".
The one piece of advice the Benbrika cell ignored from the terror manual, and which would prove to be their undoing, involved how they communicated.
The manual warns that modern communications, such as mobile telephones, were a "double-edged sword". "It can be to our advantage if we use it well and it can be a knife dug in our back if we do not consider and take the necessary security measures," the manual says.
For Benbrika and his followers, their undisciplined use of telephones became their knife in theback.
Despite the fact members rightly suspected that their mobiles, which included many held under false names, were being bugged, they kept talking.
Mobile calls between group members were among 482 covert recordings played to the jury as part of the prosecution case in thetrial.
One of the agents close to Operation Pendennis - the joint ASIO, Victoria Police and Australian Federal Police taskforce that spent 16 months between July 2004 and November 2005 targeting the Benbrika group - described the home-grown terror cell as "the real deal".
Some officers are now concerned that potential new Muslim terror threats could prove harder to combat because of the details revealed during the marathon trial of tactics and techniques used by the Pendennis team.
The trial was told how the taskforce threw a massive electronic and physical surveillance net around Benbrika and his followers: 16,400 hours of recordings from bugs in homes and vehicles, 98,000 telephone intercepts and 402 shifts by surveillance teams.
The trial was given detailed evidence about the techniques used by an undercover counter-terrorism agent, identified only as SIO39, to infiltrate the Benbrika group. The man, using the name Ahmet Sonmez, posed as the son of a separated Turkish-Australian couple who had initially grown up in Turkey with his Muslim father before moving to Tasmania to live with his Australian mother.
It meant that members of the Melbourne group would have had trouble attempting to verify his family background.
SIO39 went to great lengths to make himself as attractive a recruit as possible to Benbrika.
He told the sheik he had easy and cheap access to ammonium nitrate fertiliser and had learned how to turn it into an explosive mixture while working on farms in Tasmania.
He also claimed to have made surplus money from selling inherited shares, which he offered to give to Benbrika. And he repeatedly talked about how it was time to wage violent jihad in Australia.
Benbrika was apparently fooled but some of the other terror cell members were not so confident, believing SIO39 too good to be true.
As one of them pointed out, he didn't even want to argue with other members during their frequent heated discussions about religion. And in a group that was constantly squabbling, simple agreement was enough to cast suspicion.
Sunday, February 01, 2009
Iraq: Bad Mannered Pig Ignorant Muslim Votes Courtesy of President G W Bush and over 4000 of Americas finest.
Muntazer al-Zaidi votes in prison
From correspondents in Baghdad
January 31, 2009 09:30pm
THE Iraqi journalist who hurled his shoes at former US president George W. Bush in Baghdad has voted in secret from his prison cell in the country's provincial election.
"Muntazer al-Zaidi voted on January 28,'' an official with the Central Criminal Court of Iraq said.
"Nobody was allowed to ask him whom he would vote for so it would not be considered as a way of trying to influence his choice.''
Police, soldiers, hospital patients and prisoners cast advance votes on Wednesday to avoid the security, logistical and electoral fraud problems which plagued the 2005 parliamentary elections.
Mr Zaidi, 29, gained instant international fame when he threw his shoes at Bush during the US president's farewell visit to Iraq on December 14, an action considered a grave insult in the Arab world.
The journalist for the Al-Baghdadia television faces charges of ``aggression against a foreign head of state during an official visit''.
If convicted he faces up to 15 years in jail.
Up to 15 million people will be voting today to choose provincial councils in 14 of the country's 18 provinces in the first election since 2005.
I hope this piece of shit spends 15 years in jail, he obviously prefers the Saddam era, sounds harsh? no, under the Saddam regime he would have had his brain " liberated" from the prison of his skull within 10 seconds of him throwing his shoe at Saddam or any of his arsehole sons or upper management,via a baseball bat or a bullet to the temple.
Of course the liberals and their Islamic terror apologists in the west, would have been saying things like "who are we to judge" " Islamic culture is not like other cultures and whilst their social customs are at times, to the uneducated westerners, are confronting we in the west should ask what was it, the shoe thrower did to deserve to have his brains blown out" and the old stand by of "Islam means peace" and an announcement of a "Multi Faith Outreach" conference some where or other in NY or LA,code for, hey how you too can justify the beheading, enslavement and torture of "infidels" by Islams finest the world over, in the name of "peace"
I am glad this ungrateful spineless sack of Islamic shit has been afforded the right to vote, I am outraged that one DROP of " Infidel" blood has been spilt for that to become a realty for this arse clown
From correspondents in Baghdad
January 31, 2009 09:30pm
THE Iraqi journalist who hurled his shoes at former US president George W. Bush in Baghdad has voted in secret from his prison cell in the country's provincial election.
"Muntazer al-Zaidi voted on January 28,'' an official with the Central Criminal Court of Iraq said.
"Nobody was allowed to ask him whom he would vote for so it would not be considered as a way of trying to influence his choice.''
Police, soldiers, hospital patients and prisoners cast advance votes on Wednesday to avoid the security, logistical and electoral fraud problems which plagued the 2005 parliamentary elections.
Mr Zaidi, 29, gained instant international fame when he threw his shoes at Bush during the US president's farewell visit to Iraq on December 14, an action considered a grave insult in the Arab world.
The journalist for the Al-Baghdadia television faces charges of ``aggression against a foreign head of state during an official visit''.
If convicted he faces up to 15 years in jail.
Up to 15 million people will be voting today to choose provincial councils in 14 of the country's 18 provinces in the first election since 2005.
I hope this piece of shit spends 15 years in jail, he obviously prefers the Saddam era, sounds harsh? no, under the Saddam regime he would have had his brain " liberated" from the prison of his skull within 10 seconds of him throwing his shoe at Saddam or any of his arsehole sons or upper management,via a baseball bat or a bullet to the temple.
Of course the liberals and their Islamic terror apologists in the west, would have been saying things like "who are we to judge" " Islamic culture is not like other cultures and whilst their social customs are at times, to the uneducated westerners, are confronting we in the west should ask what was it, the shoe thrower did to deserve to have his brains blown out" and the old stand by of "Islam means peace" and an announcement of a "Multi Faith Outreach" conference some where or other in NY or LA,code for, hey how you too can justify the beheading, enslavement and torture of "infidels" by Islams finest the world over, in the name of "peace"
I am glad this ungrateful spineless sack of Islamic shit has been afforded the right to vote, I am outraged that one DROP of " Infidel" blood has been spilt for that to become a realty for this arse clown
Islam can only exist as a disruptive minority or an oppressive majority.
It's the Koran Stupid!!!!!!!
Garbage IN Garbage OUT
Garbage IN Garbage OUT
Friday, January 30, 2009
Australia: Medicare the best third world health system in the world bar none.
Tammy Hams - lying in agony on hospital floor
By Richard Noone
The Daily Telegraph
January 30, 2009 12:00am
TAMMY Hams thought she was "going to die" when she was offered a blanket and told to lie on a waiting room floor because staff at her local hospital could not find her a bed.
Ms Hams was booked in for surgery at Wyong Hospital to remove possible cancerous lesions when doctors discovered a huge abscess causing "agonising pain".
The 29-year-old said she spent 3½ hours writhing in agony on the waiting room floor of the hospital's surgical ward on Wednesday before she was eventually given a bed.
Staff at the hospital "categorically deny" her claims.
Rees quiet on Rudd hospital bailout
The incident comes amid yet another hospital outrage, in which a 24-year-old man was discharged from Griffith Hospital early on Monday after complaining of sinus pain.
The following day he again presented to the hospital and was flown immediately to Sydney's St Vincent's where he died from unknown causes.
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Greater Southern Health has launched an investigation into why he was discharged.
And in Dubbo, doctors are threatening to quit because they routinely run out of basic medications.
Ms Hams said her GP had been trying to get her into hospital since Friday when she began feeling stabbing pains in her stomach.
A biopsy four months ago revealed pre-cancerous lesions on her cervix, which if left would turn cancerous.
"I thought I was going to die," Ms Hams told The Daily Telegraph yesterday from her hospital bed.
"I have never been in that much pain in my life - it was agony."
She was booked-in for a hysterectomy and told to arrive at 9am.
Her mother Jenny Leatham said she was "crying and doubled-over in pain" and could not sit on the waiting room chairs or stand, so they pleaded for a bed.
"They gave her a blanket and said the best she could do was lie on the floor," Mr Leatham said.
"The staff were so nice and you could see they were upset about what was happening. This is just unfair, I'm not rubbishing the staff. There just wasn't enough beds.
"The system has to change."
A North Sydney Central Coast Health spokeswoman said an investigation found there was no shortage of beds and Ms Hams was "treated in a caring and timely manner".
"It is unacceptable for a patient to be expected to lie on the floor and staff on duty when Ms Hams arrived at the hospital deny making any such recommendation," the spokeswoman said.
The hospital argues she was assessed by an anaesthetist at 10.10am and that she asked for the blanket.
Mrs Leatham said by 12.30pm staff found her daughter a bed and she was operated on at 2pm.
When surgeons cut her open they discovered a huge abscess pushing on her cervix.
Unable to perform the hysterectomy they removed as much of the infection as they could and inserted a tube to drain it over the next seven to 10 days.
"If the abscess had burst while she was in the waiting room she would have died," Mrs Leatham said.
Wyong Hospital is just one of the state's many hospitals plagued with debt, bed shortages and a lack of specialist doctors.
Last week its emergency department - one of the busiest in the state - lost all but one of its specialist doctors to Gosford Hospital so it could retain its status as a teaching hospital.
Senior doctors at Dubbo Base Hospital threatened to walk off the job after they ran out of morphine because the hospital could not afford to pay pharmaceutical companies.
Patients in intensive care also sweltered for days in record temperatures because contractors could not be paid to fix the air conditioning.
The Greater Western Area Health Service reportedly owes more than $23 million to suppliers. Many are no longer prepared to provide food or medical equipment.
The situation across the state is expected to get far worse before it gets any better.
A report by auditing firm PriceWaterhouseCoopers last month revealed the state's health budget would blow out by as much as $900 million by March if dramatic changes were not made
Before the Australian Labor Party introduced their socialised medicine aka Medicare the Australian health system was THE BEST health system in the world bar NONE.
Now we have the best THIRD WORLD health DONT CARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD BAR none.
AMERICA beware the Obama universal health care threat, look to Australia to see what happens when you SOCIALISE your health care.
The NSW Labor Government wont spend a dollar on the Manly Hospital simply because the land is worth millions of dollars and they have a parade of big business big Labor donors ready and waiting to get their hands on the land to develop into an exclusive residential development with million dollar views of Sydney Harbour, hey the minister himself said that Manly Hospital is a coastal Hospital, and does not need air conditioning as much as Hospitals in the Labor Party's electorates.
Mona Vale Hospital is the next on the list of the institutions that have to be dismantled on the basis of who benefits from them in Mona Vale Hospitals case it is a predominately anti Labor electorate, with a Hospital sitting on a billion dollar site that the Socialists simply cannot tolerate, they see the site as a place where they could build a holiday resort for Labor faithful and those wanting to be educated in correct thinking.
Caution Talk Back Radio callers
Caution when calling "Talk Back " Radio.
Hello Aussie,
I want you to know about my experience re calling Sydney's # 1 Radio station 2GB.
I called the station and spoke to Frank Crook one Saturday morning some weeks back, I spoke negatively about Obama, I was derided and quickly cut off.
I phoned back in order to finish off what I wanted to say, I was repeatedly cut off by the call screener who I later identified himself as Mark Kennedy.
I was not allowed to finish my call to Frank Crook,I was not reconnected, I was however told that the New South Wales Police would be informed of "your details" by Mark Kennedy should I call 2GB again.
The right of Frank Crook and 2GB to decide what type of political calls go to air is certainly their perogative and whilst I would like to have unfettered acces to their air waves I understand that whilst they generally fall to the left point of view they do indeed give the majority viewpoint a reasonable hearing over "their" airwaves.
What I found unsetling, to say the least, was the threat of my "details" been forwarded to the New South Wales Police Department should I not stop calling 2GB.
2GB's majority owner, John Singleton, is a self confessed Australian Labor Party supporter and multi millionaire, callers to 2GB's open line talk back should be aware that should they want to offer, as in my case, a negative opinion of the now US President Barack Obama,or enunciate a negative opinion of Obama's Australian based # 1 sychophant and apologist, Australian Labor Party leader Kevin Rudd that it could be that their "details" could very well be forwarded to the New South Wales Police Department.
As of time of writing I have not been visited by the NSW Police Department or am I aware of any action taken by them against me because of my call to Frank Crook & radio 2GB, however I find it unsettling to think that a radio station that promotes itself as a voice of the majority, and voice of the people, would threaten to forward my or anyone elses "details" to the New South Wales Police Force when it deemed my / our views were contrary to the views of the station management or their presenter.
Caution remember when calling a talk back radio station and talking on air on whatever subject your "details" as in your phone number and name are retained by the station on their computer data base, they have your name and address and phone number in their data base that can be given to any one they deem should have have it along with the content of your call to them or any other data that the call screener or presenter deems fit to enter against your "DETAILS"
Cheers ANON.
Hello Aussie,
I want you to know about my experience re calling Sydney's # 1 Radio station 2GB.
I called the station and spoke to Frank Crook one Saturday morning some weeks back, I spoke negatively about Obama, I was derided and quickly cut off.
I phoned back in order to finish off what I wanted to say, I was repeatedly cut off by the call screener who I later identified himself as Mark Kennedy.
I was not allowed to finish my call to Frank Crook,I was not reconnected, I was however told that the New South Wales Police would be informed of "your details" by Mark Kennedy should I call 2GB again.
The right of Frank Crook and 2GB to decide what type of political calls go to air is certainly their perogative and whilst I would like to have unfettered acces to their air waves I understand that whilst they generally fall to the left point of view they do indeed give the majority viewpoint a reasonable hearing over "their" airwaves.
What I found unsetling, to say the least, was the threat of my "details" been forwarded to the New South Wales Police Department should I not stop calling 2GB.
2GB's majority owner, John Singleton, is a self confessed Australian Labor Party supporter and multi millionaire, callers to 2GB's open line talk back should be aware that should they want to offer, as in my case, a negative opinion of the now US President Barack Obama,or enunciate a negative opinion of Obama's Australian based # 1 sychophant and apologist, Australian Labor Party leader Kevin Rudd that it could be that their "details" could very well be forwarded to the New South Wales Police Department.
As of time of writing I have not been visited by the NSW Police Department or am I aware of any action taken by them against me because of my call to Frank Crook & radio 2GB, however I find it unsettling to think that a radio station that promotes itself as a voice of the majority, and voice of the people, would threaten to forward my or anyone elses "details" to the New South Wales Police Force when it deemed my / our views were contrary to the views of the station management or their presenter.
Caution remember when calling a talk back radio station and talking on air on whatever subject your "details" as in your phone number and name are retained by the station on their computer data base, they have your name and address and phone number in their data base that can be given to any one they deem should have have it along with the content of your call to them or any other data that the call screener or presenter deems fit to enter against your "DETAILS"
Cheers ANON.
Thursday, January 29, 2009
Sydney Australia The Usual Suspects at it AGAIN!! Sex attackers in school uniform assault 13-yr-old girl
Sex attackers in school uniform assault 13-yr-old girl
By Margaret Scheikowski
News.com.au
January 29, 2009 06:51pm
SEVEN youths, some in school uniform, subjected a 13-year-old girl to sex acts, one of which was filmed and sent to a mate, a Sydney judge has been told.
The girl, who felt threatened and intimidated, performed oral sex on five of the youths during her hours-long ordeal at two isolated toilet blocks and on a building rooftop in Sydney. During one incident, she was told, "Just smile like you're enjoying it," while one youth later gave her his phone number and asked her to call him.
At times, youths yelled at their mates to "hurry up, it's taking too long" and "your turn's up". Four of the teenagers, who were aged 15 and 16 at the time and cannot be named, faced a sentencing hearing in the NSW District Court today.
Three have pleaded guilty to one count of aggravated sexual intercourse with a girl under 14, and the fourth has admitted to two such offences. A fifth youth, referred to as KD, will be sentenced separately, a sixth is before the Children's Court, and no information was available on the seventh, who is referred to as "an unnamed male" in the agreed facts.
The offences took place in July 2007, at two different toilet blocks in Yagoona parks and later on the rooftop of a Bankstown building. The facts said the girl agreed to meet KD at the Bankstown Bus Depot on that day, after having first met him days earlier at a shopping centre. He arrived in full school uniform and, to her surprise, was accompanied by two other youths, one similarly dressed and the other other in partial uniform.
The trio caught the train to Yagoona railway station, where the girl was led to a public female toilet block in a park, where four other males were seated outside. Comments such as "you're hot" were made to her, before KD asked "would you give my friends head jobs?". When she said no, he continued to question her, resulting in her feeling "threatened and intimidated" and saying "yeah whatever".
She went into a cubicle with one youth, with whom she had oral sex, after which another teenager said "I'm going to root her" before penetrating her and causing pain. After they were disturbed by council workers, the girl was surrounded and walked to another toilet block in a nearby park where more oral sex took place, as well as digital penetration. Later, at a building rooftop in Bankstown, another youth arrived and she was told to give him "a head job".
She said: "I don't want to. I've had enough. I've had to give everyone head jobs today." She eventually complied "feeling angry that she was being forced to do something she didn't want to". That evening, the girl was told video footage of her performing oral sex on one youth had been sent to another male. In sentencing submissions, lawyers for the four referred to their immaturity, lack of sex education, good family backgrounds and contrition.
One of the four boys, who was only at the rooftop, had not known about what happened earlier and had "taken the opportunity" to engage in his first sexual encounter,
Judge Richard Cogswell was told. He adjourned submissions to February 20.
The victim is yet another of what New South Wales Police estimate is in excess of 100 "Aussie Slut" "Aussie Pig" "Skip" to be gang raped and sexually assaulted on the alter of the Australian left's God of Multiculturalism. There are many many more victims of "Cultural Diversity" in Sydney Australia, that will never come forward, they along with the victims we know about are hopefully the faces the leftist apologists and beautiful people for Islam and Multiculturalism will see are hopefully the only faces they see in the last minutes of their lives, hopefully they will reflect on their choice to side with those who not only think nothing of their infidel victims but even less of their leftist apologists and facilitators.
By Margaret Scheikowski
News.com.au
January 29, 2009 06:51pm
SEVEN youths, some in school uniform, subjected a 13-year-old girl to sex acts, one of which was filmed and sent to a mate, a Sydney judge has been told.
The girl, who felt threatened and intimidated, performed oral sex on five of the youths during her hours-long ordeal at two isolated toilet blocks and on a building rooftop in Sydney. During one incident, she was told, "Just smile like you're enjoying it," while one youth later gave her his phone number and asked her to call him.
At times, youths yelled at their mates to "hurry up, it's taking too long" and "your turn's up". Four of the teenagers, who were aged 15 and 16 at the time and cannot be named, faced a sentencing hearing in the NSW District Court today.
Three have pleaded guilty to one count of aggravated sexual intercourse with a girl under 14, and the fourth has admitted to two such offences. A fifth youth, referred to as KD, will be sentenced separately, a sixth is before the Children's Court, and no information was available on the seventh, who is referred to as "an unnamed male" in the agreed facts.
The offences took place in July 2007, at two different toilet blocks in Yagoona parks and later on the rooftop of a Bankstown building. The facts said the girl agreed to meet KD at the Bankstown Bus Depot on that day, after having first met him days earlier at a shopping centre. He arrived in full school uniform and, to her surprise, was accompanied by two other youths, one similarly dressed and the other other in partial uniform.
The trio caught the train to Yagoona railway station, where the girl was led to a public female toilet block in a park, where four other males were seated outside. Comments such as "you're hot" were made to her, before KD asked "would you give my friends head jobs?". When she said no, he continued to question her, resulting in her feeling "threatened and intimidated" and saying "yeah whatever".
She went into a cubicle with one youth, with whom she had oral sex, after which another teenager said "I'm going to root her" before penetrating her and causing pain. After they were disturbed by council workers, the girl was surrounded and walked to another toilet block in a nearby park where more oral sex took place, as well as digital penetration. Later, at a building rooftop in Bankstown, another youth arrived and she was told to give him "a head job".
She said: "I don't want to. I've had enough. I've had to give everyone head jobs today." She eventually complied "feeling angry that she was being forced to do something she didn't want to". That evening, the girl was told video footage of her performing oral sex on one youth had been sent to another male. In sentencing submissions, lawyers for the four referred to their immaturity, lack of sex education, good family backgrounds and contrition.
One of the four boys, who was only at the rooftop, had not known about what happened earlier and had "taken the opportunity" to engage in his first sexual encounter,
Judge Richard Cogswell was told. He adjourned submissions to February 20.
The victim is yet another of what New South Wales Police estimate is in excess of 100 "Aussie Slut" "Aussie Pig" "Skip" to be gang raped and sexually assaulted on the alter of the Australian left's God of Multiculturalism. There are many many more victims of "Cultural Diversity" in Sydney Australia, that will never come forward, they along with the victims we know about are hopefully the faces the leftist apologists and beautiful people for Islam and Multiculturalism will see are hopefully the only faces they see in the last minutes of their lives, hopefully they will reflect on their choice to side with those who not only think nothing of their infidel victims but even less of their leftist apologists and facilitators.
Islam IS what Islam DOES
Having said all of the above when will Australian women and girls stop engaging with these "middle eastern" males? WTF**K do they think these "brave sons of allah" have in store for them?
Infidel women only exist to abuse and Rape, why oh why do Infidel women, aka "Aussie Sluts " and "Aussie Pigs" think that any Islamic male would think that the "middle eastern" apple of their eye would be any different than all the other "brave sons of allah" ?
Schoolboys' sex acts with girl, 13, filmed and sent to mates
Harriet Alexander
SMH
January 29, 2009
A 13-year-old girl who was violated by seven teenage boys - some of them dressed in school uniforms - was told to "smile like you're enjoying it" as they took turns with her in a public toilet cubicle, a court heard today.
The girl had vaginal and oral sex in several different Sydney locations with the boys in acts that one teenager taped on his mobile phone and later sent to his friends.
Four teenagers appeared in the District Court for a sentencing hearing today, after pleading guilty to aggravated sexual intercourse with a person aged between 10 and 14.
The lawyers for the four argued it had not been a planned affair, but was "opportunistic" because the girl was available and they had limited sexual experience.
One boy's parents had instructed his school not to give him any sexual education until he turned 16, the court heard.
Oh gee, Oh darn, then that's why the Muslim arse hole raped the 13 year old girl, It's the schools fault,hey nothing to see here move along.
According to an agreed statement of facts, the girl met one of the boys while shopping with a friend at Bankstown Centro in July 2007.
Three days later she agreed to meet him at a bus depot, where they would travel to Yagoona.
But when he arrived, she saw that he had brought two friends and they led her to a nearby public toilet where four others were waiting.
The girl's new friend asked her to give his friends oral sex, which she declined, but after he continued to press her she felt intimidated and said: "Yeah, whatever."
Over the next few hours, the boys took turns entering the toilet cubicle, where they had oral sex with her.
One 15-year-old announced to the others "I'm going to root her", but it took several unsuccessful attempts before he penetrated her while she experienced a tearing sensation that she said felt "terrible".
When council workers interrupted them, they moved to a different public toilet in a nearby reserve where the activity continued, while outside the cubicle the boys made comments such as "smile like you're enjoying it".
They made her take off her clothes and watched one another violate her, causing her to bleed.
Two of the teenagers took her to a third location, on the rooftop of a building, where another teenager turned up wearing a toolbelt.
Again she was asked to give him oral sex, again she declined, and again they pressed her until she angrily relented.
Later that night, a friend told her that footage of her performing oral sex had been sent between mobile phones and that one boy reported she "looked like a slut".
She reported the matter to police.
The alleged ringleader, who originally arranged to meet the girl, will be sentenced in separate proceedings next month.
These pieces of shit, are, in Australia, protected species, they are Middle Eastern and under 18 they are the Multicultural Industry & lefts Daaaaarlings aka. UNTOUCHABLE
Infidel women only exist to abuse and Rape, why oh why do Infidel women, aka "Aussie Sluts " and "Aussie Pigs" think that any Islamic male would think that the "middle eastern" apple of their eye would be any different than all the other "brave sons of allah" ?
Schoolboys' sex acts with girl, 13, filmed and sent to mates
Harriet Alexander
SMH
January 29, 2009
A 13-year-old girl who was violated by seven teenage boys - some of them dressed in school uniforms - was told to "smile like you're enjoying it" as they took turns with her in a public toilet cubicle, a court heard today.
The girl had vaginal and oral sex in several different Sydney locations with the boys in acts that one teenager taped on his mobile phone and later sent to his friends.
Four teenagers appeared in the District Court for a sentencing hearing today, after pleading guilty to aggravated sexual intercourse with a person aged between 10 and 14.
The lawyers for the four argued it had not been a planned affair, but was "opportunistic" because the girl was available and they had limited sexual experience.
One boy's parents had instructed his school not to give him any sexual education until he turned 16, the court heard.
Oh gee, Oh darn, then that's why the Muslim arse hole raped the 13 year old girl, It's the schools fault,hey nothing to see here move along.
According to an agreed statement of facts, the girl met one of the boys while shopping with a friend at Bankstown Centro in July 2007.
Three days later she agreed to meet him at a bus depot, where they would travel to Yagoona.
But when he arrived, she saw that he had brought two friends and they led her to a nearby public toilet where four others were waiting.
The girl's new friend asked her to give his friends oral sex, which she declined, but after he continued to press her she felt intimidated and said: "Yeah, whatever."
Over the next few hours, the boys took turns entering the toilet cubicle, where they had oral sex with her.
One 15-year-old announced to the others "I'm going to root her", but it took several unsuccessful attempts before he penetrated her while she experienced a tearing sensation that she said felt "terrible".
When council workers interrupted them, they moved to a different public toilet in a nearby reserve where the activity continued, while outside the cubicle the boys made comments such as "smile like you're enjoying it".
They made her take off her clothes and watched one another violate her, causing her to bleed.
Two of the teenagers took her to a third location, on the rooftop of a building, where another teenager turned up wearing a toolbelt.
Again she was asked to give him oral sex, again she declined, and again they pressed her until she angrily relented.
Later that night, a friend told her that footage of her performing oral sex had been sent between mobile phones and that one boy reported she "looked like a slut".
She reported the matter to police.
The alleged ringleader, who originally arranged to meet the girl, will be sentenced in separate proceedings next month.
These pieces of shit, are, in Australia, protected species, they are Middle Eastern and under 18 they are the Multicultural Industry & lefts Daaaaarlings aka. UNTOUCHABLE
Wednesday, January 28, 2009
Asia Pacific Human Rights Institute's, Maqsood Alshams, claims.."you the Jews are real motherf----- bastards,"
Rights activist apologises for anti-Semitic comments
SMH
Erik Jensen
January 28, 2009
THE convener of a conference on justice for Palestine, to be held at State Parliament tomorrow, has apologised for making anti-Jewish comments despite having earlier defended them as "private conversation".
Maqsood Alshams, who formed a lobby group called the Asia Pacific Human Rights Institute, organised the conference with three universities to discuss the possibility of Israel being prosecuted by the International Court of Justice.
The Bangladesh-born asylum seeker, who was once nominated for the National Human Rights Award, wrote in private emails obtained by the Herald that Israel had overshadowed the Holocaust in its treatment of Palestine and that God hated Jews.
"The simple answer is that you the Jews are real motherf----- bastards," he wrote in an email to Richard Benkin, a human rights activist based in Chicago.
"You guys are simply assholes … Stop playing the bloody victim games."
In another email, to a Sydney management consultant, Anna Berger, Mr Maqsood said Israel's actions in Gaza were more serious than the Holocaust, comparing the conflict with Hitler's treatment of Jews.
Asked about the emails, Mr Maqsood initially defended his right to a private argument. "Is it anything wrong to have a private conversation? That is not my public view … I am not an anti-Semite at all. I have many Jewish friends."
But late yesterday Mr Maqsood apologised and withdrew the remarks. "I am ashamed to say they were made at a time when I was intoxicated and angry," he said. "Of course, there is no excuse for such remarks."
The universities participating in Mr Maqsood's conference have refused to withdraw support, despite calls from the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies.
"It now seems the conference will also serve an anti-Semitic agenda," the board's chief executive, Vic Alhadeff, said yesterday. "The participating organisations - wittingly or unwittingly - have allowed themselves to be used as part of that racist agenda."
Larissa Behrendt, of the University of Technology, said monetary support would remain for the conference as the forum was part of legitimate debate.
"We saw this as being an opportunity for debate [but] there's no space in it for the comments that have been made. There's no excuse for them [but] it doesn't mean the debate we want to have take place should not take place."
Macquarie University and the University of Sydney have also maintained their positions.
The Edmund Rice Centre, a Christian social justice body where the Asia Pacific Human Rights Institute is based, said the remarks were derogatory and offensive.
Another parasitic bludger and pin up boy of the Left,from over the seas and far away, who upon arriving here demand that Australians adopt the failed cultural, social and Religious pratices that he claims to have run away from because he could no longer live under the oppression that they manifested.
Oh the joys of Multiculturalism aka colonization by stealth.
No surprises the various Universities are supporting this racist bigot,like minds working together for a common goal.
Imprison Alshams
Update: Racist "MotherF*****g Bastard's" Jew Hate fest cancelled
Anti-Semitic remarks stop Palestine conference
SMH
Josephine Tovey
January 28, 2009 - 7:59PM
A conference on justice for Palestine due to be held tomorrow at State Parliament has been called off after several high-profile speakers withdrew from the event, citing revelations the convener had made anti-Semitic remarks.
Maqsood Alshams, who had organised the conference 'Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere', made a series of derogatory remarks about Jewish people in several private emails, the Herald revealed on Wednesday.
Two of the conferences key speakers, Antony Loewenstein and Peter Manning, withdrew in a joint email to the convenor at lunchtime today [Wednesday].
"As a Jew who condemns anti-Semitism I though it would be inappropriate to engage in a debate in that kind of environment," said Mr Loewenstein, a blogger and author of My Israel Question. "That does not change the fact that I still feel very strongly about the situation in Gaza."
Professor Manning, who lectures in Journalism at UTS and is a critic of anti-Arab media bias, also said he felt the conference was no longer an appropriate forum for the issue.
"I don't want to confuse the Palestinian issues that I care about with any form of racism or anti-Semitism," said Professor Manning.
Mr Maqsood, a Bangladesh-born asylum seeker and founder of the small lobby group Asia Pacific Human Rights Institute, apologised for the emails on Tuesday and said he had been "intoxicated and angry" when he wrote them.
He was not available for comment tonight [Wednesday], but had notified people via email during the afternoon that the event had been cancelled.
The director of the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies Vic Alhadeff, who condemned Mr Maqsood's comments on Tuesday, said he was vindicated by the decision.
"Our community felt from the outset that if the conference went ahead, it would have been irredeemably tainted with bias, given the lack of balance and the anti-Semitic comments made by the principal organiser," he said in a statement.
SMH
Erik Jensen
January 28, 2009
THE convener of a conference on justice for Palestine, to be held at State Parliament tomorrow, has apologised for making anti-Jewish comments despite having earlier defended them as "private conversation".
Maqsood Alshams, who formed a lobby group called the Asia Pacific Human Rights Institute, organised the conference with three universities to discuss the possibility of Israel being prosecuted by the International Court of Justice.
The Bangladesh-born asylum seeker, who was once nominated for the National Human Rights Award, wrote in private emails obtained by the Herald that Israel had overshadowed the Holocaust in its treatment of Palestine and that God hated Jews.
"The simple answer is that you the Jews are real motherf----- bastards," he wrote in an email to Richard Benkin, a human rights activist based in Chicago.
"You guys are simply assholes … Stop playing the bloody victim games."
In another email, to a Sydney management consultant, Anna Berger, Mr Maqsood said Israel's actions in Gaza were more serious than the Holocaust, comparing the conflict with Hitler's treatment of Jews.
Asked about the emails, Mr Maqsood initially defended his right to a private argument. "Is it anything wrong to have a private conversation? That is not my public view … I am not an anti-Semite at all. I have many Jewish friends."
But late yesterday Mr Maqsood apologised and withdrew the remarks. "I am ashamed to say they were made at a time when I was intoxicated and angry," he said. "Of course, there is no excuse for such remarks."
The universities participating in Mr Maqsood's conference have refused to withdraw support, despite calls from the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies.
"It now seems the conference will also serve an anti-Semitic agenda," the board's chief executive, Vic Alhadeff, said yesterday. "The participating organisations - wittingly or unwittingly - have allowed themselves to be used as part of that racist agenda."
Larissa Behrendt, of the University of Technology, said monetary support would remain for the conference as the forum was part of legitimate debate.
"We saw this as being an opportunity for debate [but] there's no space in it for the comments that have been made. There's no excuse for them [but] it doesn't mean the debate we want to have take place should not take place."
Macquarie University and the University of Sydney have also maintained their positions.
The Edmund Rice Centre, a Christian social justice body where the Asia Pacific Human Rights Institute is based, said the remarks were derogatory and offensive.
Another parasitic bludger and pin up boy of the Left,from over the seas and far away, who upon arriving here demand that Australians adopt the failed cultural, social and Religious pratices that he claims to have run away from because he could no longer live under the oppression that they manifested.
Oh the joys of Multiculturalism aka colonization by stealth.
No surprises the various Universities are supporting this racist bigot,like minds working together for a common goal.
This Racist "MotherF*****g Bastard" should be deported immediately.
Imprison Alshams
Update: Racist "MotherF*****g Bastard's" Jew Hate fest cancelled
Anti-Semitic remarks stop Palestine conference
SMH
Josephine Tovey
January 28, 2009 - 7:59PM
A conference on justice for Palestine due to be held tomorrow at State Parliament has been called off after several high-profile speakers withdrew from the event, citing revelations the convener had made anti-Semitic remarks.
Maqsood Alshams, who had organised the conference 'Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere', made a series of derogatory remarks about Jewish people in several private emails, the Herald revealed on Wednesday.
Two of the conferences key speakers, Antony Loewenstein and Peter Manning, withdrew in a joint email to the convenor at lunchtime today [Wednesday].
"As a Jew who condemns anti-Semitism I though it would be inappropriate to engage in a debate in that kind of environment," said Mr Loewenstein, a blogger and author of My Israel Question. "That does not change the fact that I still feel very strongly about the situation in Gaza."
Professor Manning, who lectures in Journalism at UTS and is a critic of anti-Arab media bias, also said he felt the conference was no longer an appropriate forum for the issue.
"I don't want to confuse the Palestinian issues that I care about with any form of racism or anti-Semitism," said Professor Manning.
Mr Maqsood, a Bangladesh-born asylum seeker and founder of the small lobby group Asia Pacific Human Rights Institute, apologised for the emails on Tuesday and said he had been "intoxicated and angry" when he wrote them.
He was not available for comment tonight [Wednesday], but had notified people via email during the afternoon that the event had been cancelled.
The director of the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies Vic Alhadeff, who condemned Mr Maqsood's comments on Tuesday, said he was vindicated by the decision.
"Our community felt from the outset that if the conference went ahead, it would have been irredeemably tainted with bias, given the lack of balance and the anti-Semitic comments made by the principal organiser," he said in a statement.
Sunday, January 25, 2009
Amazing scenes!!!!! Spontaneous conversion from Christianity to Islam in the Sudan... well almost.
In the Name of Allah
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Dutch Nazis doing the bidding of Islamofascists and International Socialism
I lifted this from Atlas Shrugs, it is but ONE of too many well documented incidences of Islamic attacks on freedom of speech and indeed the daily physical assaults upon Jews and Infidels (non Muslims) in what once were safe free European democracies, that have been colonized by stealth under the cloak of Multiculturalism, it's opponents branded rascists and bigots, by the malignant Islamic menace and their partners in crimes against humanity, International Socialism,minority advocacy groups, the " Peace Movement" and the various leftists cabals of "Hollywood Idiot" rent a celebrity, or indeed a gushing and excitable "beautiful person"for an opinion on anything, Democrat spokespersons,apologists and propagandists.
I urge you to go to Atlas Shrugs web site to appreciate the full horror of what is about to unfold in Judeo / Christian western democracies, and yes including the one you and your children live in.
Please support Geert Wilders by clicking the picture on the right hand side bar of Aussie News & Views
This is worse than the nazis were.
A week ago Tuesday I was ordered to report on Friday to the my city hall, to the section where foreigners are policed. I was assigned to case manager named Muhammad. He was very nice. But here is the deal.
I had a permit to stay here, that had to be renewed every five years. I then applied for a PERMANENT RESIDENT PERMIT. We paid DAMMED good money to change that status. I still had to renew the permit every five years... but for FREE just a new card and photo. I have had that status for about four years. The dutch have decided that no longer exists, as a status.
They have changed the laws here about free speech. It is illegal to say anything "hurtful to Islam". So far Bloggers, YT account holders, web site owners, have been hauled in for questioning, and shown the error of their ways. If they will not capitulate they are told they are not allowed an internet connection in their homes. (over 1,000 people have been denied the web)
All cartoons and editorial pieces about Islam must be GOVERNMENT APPROVED before publication. A few months ago they hauled a respected editorial cartoonist out of his bed at three A.M. My mother in law who has no idea what's going on anymore said "why are you all talking about the nazis . Are they back?" The nazis had the same approval "kamer"
Some muslim dutch YT account holders reported me to YT. Now there is a DUTCH YT... IN DUTCH so they reported me there. Then one or two called the government here on me.
(yes I know it's confusing)
The dutch have not yet just arrested American's... so they ordered me to be "re-educated." Now to BE re-educated you have to take these classes in dutch... but first you have to pass a DUTCH EXAM. And this exam is so awful I couldn't pass it in English. If I want to be excused from the dutch test I have to pay 190 euros for a medical exam BUT THAT'S NOT ALL ... I also have to hire an OFFICIAL translator for my re-education classes at 150 euros a class.
The classes are once a week for SIX MONTHS! After that they can arrest me, without fear from the American consulate. Then I can be fined. jailed, and or deported. .... they must think I'm STUPID >>> they'd like me to pay over 3,000 euros for the PRIVILEGE of being arrested.
Of course if I shut my mouth forever. It ends with the 3 grand. Because they got their way.
Dutch people are allowed as many passports as they want. People NOT born dutch must DENOUNCE their nation of birth and surrender their passport of origin to obtain a dutch one. If you REFUSE that option and you bet your buns
I DID REFUSE, so they will charge me INSANE amounts per-year to stay here. First year 700 Euros.
I am actually terrified I will have to leave alone. Well more like RUN IN THE NIGHT.
This is just scratching the surface of what the last few months have been like. I can't leave my house anymore unless I have a taxi. Some muslim kids attacked me and, if some normal dutch men hadn't run to help me they would have thrown me off a bridge. I called out to the police, who were passing on bikes. Since the police were outnumbered.... they just rode off and left me there alone, with these thugs.
I urge you to go to Atlas Shrugs web site to appreciate the full horror of what is about to unfold in Judeo / Christian western democracies, and yes including the one you and your children live in.
Islam can only exist as a disruptive minority or as an oppressive majority.
1400 years of documented history proves it.
1400 years of documented history proves it.
Please support Geert Wilders by clicking the picture on the right hand side bar of Aussie News & Views
This is worse than the nazis were.
A week ago Tuesday I was ordered to report on Friday to the my city hall, to the section where foreigners are policed. I was assigned to case manager named Muhammad. He was very nice. But here is the deal.
I had a permit to stay here, that had to be renewed every five years. I then applied for a PERMANENT RESIDENT PERMIT. We paid DAMMED good money to change that status. I still had to renew the permit every five years... but for FREE just a new card and photo. I have had that status for about four years. The dutch have decided that no longer exists, as a status.
They have changed the laws here about free speech. It is illegal to say anything "hurtful to Islam". So far Bloggers, YT account holders, web site owners, have been hauled in for questioning, and shown the error of their ways. If they will not capitulate they are told they are not allowed an internet connection in their homes. (over 1,000 people have been denied the web)
All cartoons and editorial pieces about Islam must be GOVERNMENT APPROVED before publication. A few months ago they hauled a respected editorial cartoonist out of his bed at three A.M. My mother in law who has no idea what's going on anymore said "why are you all talking about the nazis . Are they back?" The nazis had the same approval "kamer"
Some muslim dutch YT account holders reported me to YT. Now there is a DUTCH YT... IN DUTCH so they reported me there. Then one or two called the government here on me.
(yes I know it's confusing)
The dutch have not yet just arrested American's... so they ordered me to be "re-educated." Now to BE re-educated you have to take these classes in dutch... but first you have to pass a DUTCH EXAM. And this exam is so awful I couldn't pass it in English. If I want to be excused from the dutch test I have to pay 190 euros for a medical exam BUT THAT'S NOT ALL ... I also have to hire an OFFICIAL translator for my re-education classes at 150 euros a class.
The classes are once a week for SIX MONTHS! After that they can arrest me, without fear from the American consulate. Then I can be fined. jailed, and or deported. .... they must think I'm STUPID >>> they'd like me to pay over 3,000 euros for the PRIVILEGE of being arrested.
Of course if I shut my mouth forever. It ends with the 3 grand. Because they got their way.
Dutch people are allowed as many passports as they want. People NOT born dutch must DENOUNCE their nation of birth and surrender their passport of origin to obtain a dutch one. If you REFUSE that option and you bet your buns
I DID REFUSE, so they will charge me INSANE amounts per-year to stay here. First year 700 Euros.
I am actually terrified I will have to leave alone. Well more like RUN IN THE NIGHT.
This is just scratching the surface of what the last few months have been like. I can't leave my house anymore unless I have a taxi. Some muslim kids attacked me and, if some normal dutch men hadn't run to help me they would have thrown me off a bridge. I called out to the police, who were passing on bikes. Since the police were outnumbered.... they just rode off and left me there alone, with these thugs.
Thursday, January 22, 2009
Australia:The Keys to a Successful (Islamic?) Marriage Wife Beating Rape, ALL OK
Cleric: Rape, beating ok for wives
By Mark Dunn
The Daily Telegraph
January 22, 2009 12:00am
AN AUSTRALIAN Islamic cleric has told his male followers it is permissable that they force their wives to have sex and hit them if they are disobedient.
Melbourne's self-styled cleric Samir Abu Hamza said despite Australian rape laws it was impossible for a man to rape his wife even if she refused to have sex with him.
In a recorded lecture entitled "The Keys to a Successful Marriage'', delivered to his male worshippers but now broadcast on the internet and viewed by several thousand people, Hamza said Islamic law allowed men to hit their wives as a last resort but they were not to make them bleed or become bruised.
Remember Sheik Hilaly? Women are like 'uncovered meat'.
He said under Islamic law, as described in a Koranic verse, it was a man's right to demand sex from his wife whenever he felt like it.
"If the husband was to ask her for a sexual relationship and she is preparing the bread on the stove she must leave it and come and respond to her husband, she must respond,'' Hamza told his male followers on the video sermon.
He then mocked Australia's criminal laws which required consent for sex to be lawful.
"In this country if the husband wants to sleep with his wife and she does not want to and she hasn't got a sickness or whatever, there is nothing wrong with her she just does not feel like it, and he ends up sleeping with her by force ... it is known to be as rape.
"Amazing, how can a person rape his wife?'' Hamza asked.
In the contradictory sermon, delivered in Melbourne or Sydney about 2003 but posted late last year, Hamza initially instructs his listeners "don't hit your wife.''
But he goes on to say exactly how men should hit their wives, according to his interpretation of Islamic teachings.
He said Islam cursed "those people who hit the animal on the face, (but) what about hitting your wife?''
"First of all advise them,'' he said.
"You beat them ... but this is the last resort.
"After you have advised them (not to be disobedient) for a long, long time then you smack them, you beat them and please brothers, calm down, the beating the Mohammed showed is like the tooth brush that you use to brush your teeth.
"You are not allowed to bruise them, you are not allowed to make them bleed.''
Hamza told his followers not to get carried away and become too physical with the beatings.
"This is just to shape them up, shape up woman - that is about it.
"You don't go and grab a broom stick and say that is what Allah has said,'' Hamza said to sporadic laughter from his flock.
Hamza runs the Islamic Information and Services Network of Australasia on Sydney Rd, Coburg, which offers spiritual advice, prayer facilities and boxing, karate and gym classes for Muslims.
He said a woman who sought to divorce her husband for no valid reason would not be rewarded with paradise after death.
"A woman who asks her husband for divorce for no reason (under Islamic law) ... she will not smell the fragrance of paradise.''
Despite concerns about his preachings being raised by female members of the Islamic community, Hamza yesterday stood by his comments and blamed controversy caused by them on a hidden zionist agenda run by the media.
Questioned about his teachings, Hamza said a wife was allowed to be hit on the hand or leg, but "of course, not on the head''.
He said if a Muslim wife disobeyed her husband, such as continuing to go out when requested not to, she was able to be subjected to moderate physical punishment.
"It's like sometimes when a person smacks a child, it's like `shape up','' he said yesterday.
Hamza also reiterated his belief that women should submit to sex when husbands required it.
Asked whether it was impossible for a man to rape his wife under Islamic law, Hamza said either male or female partners should be able to demand and receive sex.
"If a man wants to sleep with his wife and his wife does not want to for no reason, for no sickness - or vice versa, if she wants to (have sex with her husband) - then yes.
"Obviously Islam allows this as a duty, as part of marriage.''
Although he said he could not recall exactly when he gave the lecture, Hamza said it was to followers in Sydney several years ago and had only been posted on the internet in recent months.
He said he would not make further comment on it.
"Don't call me, don't bother me and please don't call me ever again.''
Islamic Women's Welfare Council of Victoria executive director Joumanah El Matrah said Hamza's interpretation was bigoted.
"It is clear from hearing Abu Hamza's lecture that he sees womens' humanity as second to that of men's and appears to interpret the faith for the interests of men - not Muslims as a community,'' she said.
"Abu Hamza's interpretation of this Koranic verse (on beatings) is no longer an accepted interpretation of the verse.
"It is considered an inappropriate and regressive interpretation and is out of sink with Muslim views, especially scholarship.
"Even orthodox practitioners and Imams do not consider any form of family violence acceptable.
"It is precisely these sorts of inappropriate teachings that lead to violence and cause harm to women, children and cause family breakdowns.''
Islamic Council of Victoria vice president Sherene Hassan said Islam did not condone domestic violence.
"The Prophet Mohammed stated `The best of you is he who is kindest to his wife','' Ms Hassan said.
"The ICV is deeply concerned that there are individuals who may interpret this lecture as condoning violence against women.
"The ICV has made a commitment to address this issue by organising a series of workshops early this year where Imams and Muslim women will be invited to discuss topics such as these together, and workshop solutions both parties feel reflect their rights and religious values.''
By Mark Dunn
The Daily Telegraph
January 22, 2009 12:00am
AN AUSTRALIAN Islamic cleric has told his male followers it is permissable that they force their wives to have sex and hit them if they are disobedient.
Melbourne's self-styled cleric Samir Abu Hamza said despite Australian rape laws it was impossible for a man to rape his wife even if she refused to have sex with him.
In a recorded lecture entitled "The Keys to a Successful Marriage'', delivered to his male worshippers but now broadcast on the internet and viewed by several thousand people, Hamza said Islamic law allowed men to hit their wives as a last resort but they were not to make them bleed or become bruised.
Remember Sheik Hilaly? Women are like 'uncovered meat'.
He said under Islamic law, as described in a Koranic verse, it was a man's right to demand sex from his wife whenever he felt like it.
"If the husband was to ask her for a sexual relationship and she is preparing the bread on the stove she must leave it and come and respond to her husband, she must respond,'' Hamza told his male followers on the video sermon.
He then mocked Australia's criminal laws which required consent for sex to be lawful.
"In this country if the husband wants to sleep with his wife and she does not want to and she hasn't got a sickness or whatever, there is nothing wrong with her she just does not feel like it, and he ends up sleeping with her by force ... it is known to be as rape.
"Amazing, how can a person rape his wife?'' Hamza asked.
In the contradictory sermon, delivered in Melbourne or Sydney about 2003 but posted late last year, Hamza initially instructs his listeners "don't hit your wife.''
But he goes on to say exactly how men should hit their wives, according to his interpretation of Islamic teachings.
He said Islam cursed "those people who hit the animal on the face, (but) what about hitting your wife?''
"First of all advise them,'' he said.
"You beat them ... but this is the last resort.
"After you have advised them (not to be disobedient) for a long, long time then you smack them, you beat them and please brothers, calm down, the beating the Mohammed showed is like the tooth brush that you use to brush your teeth.
"You are not allowed to bruise them, you are not allowed to make them bleed.''
Hamza told his followers not to get carried away and become too physical with the beatings.
"This is just to shape them up, shape up woman - that is about it.
"You don't go and grab a broom stick and say that is what Allah has said,'' Hamza said to sporadic laughter from his flock.
Hamza runs the Islamic Information and Services Network of Australasia on Sydney Rd, Coburg, which offers spiritual advice, prayer facilities and boxing, karate and gym classes for Muslims.
He said a woman who sought to divorce her husband for no valid reason would not be rewarded with paradise after death.
"A woman who asks her husband for divorce for no reason (under Islamic law) ... she will not smell the fragrance of paradise.''
Despite concerns about his preachings being raised by female members of the Islamic community, Hamza yesterday stood by his comments and blamed controversy caused by them on a hidden zionist agenda run by the media.
Questioned about his teachings, Hamza said a wife was allowed to be hit on the hand or leg, but "of course, not on the head''.
He said if a Muslim wife disobeyed her husband, such as continuing to go out when requested not to, she was able to be subjected to moderate physical punishment.
"It's like sometimes when a person smacks a child, it's like `shape up','' he said yesterday.
Hamza also reiterated his belief that women should submit to sex when husbands required it.
Asked whether it was impossible for a man to rape his wife under Islamic law, Hamza said either male or female partners should be able to demand and receive sex.
"If a man wants to sleep with his wife and his wife does not want to for no reason, for no sickness - or vice versa, if she wants to (have sex with her husband) - then yes.
"Obviously Islam allows this as a duty, as part of marriage.''
Although he said he could not recall exactly when he gave the lecture, Hamza said it was to followers in Sydney several years ago and had only been posted on the internet in recent months.
He said he would not make further comment on it.
"Don't call me, don't bother me and please don't call me ever again.''
Islamic Women's Welfare Council of Victoria executive director Joumanah El Matrah said Hamza's interpretation was bigoted.
"It is clear from hearing Abu Hamza's lecture that he sees womens' humanity as second to that of men's and appears to interpret the faith for the interests of men - not Muslims as a community,'' she said.
"Abu Hamza's interpretation of this Koranic verse (on beatings) is no longer an accepted interpretation of the verse.
"It is considered an inappropriate and regressive interpretation and is out of sink with Muslim views, especially scholarship.
"Even orthodox practitioners and Imams do not consider any form of family violence acceptable.
"It is precisely these sorts of inappropriate teachings that lead to violence and cause harm to women, children and cause family breakdowns.''
Islamic Council of Victoria vice president Sherene Hassan said Islam did not condone domestic violence.
"The Prophet Mohammed stated `The best of you is he who is kindest to his wife','' Ms Hassan said.
"The ICV is deeply concerned that there are individuals who may interpret this lecture as condoning violence against women.
"The ICV has made a commitment to address this issue by organising a series of workshops early this year where Imams and Muslim women will be invited to discuss topics such as these together, and workshop solutions both parties feel reflect their rights and religious values.''
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