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Equality then means the violent destruction of all social and cultural distinctions. Freedom means absolute dictatorship over the people."
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“There may be even a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than live as slaves”
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Showing posts with label Guantanamo Bay. Show all posts
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Friday, March 29, 2013

Former Guantanamo Bay Inmate, and Islam's favourite "Rat with a Gold Tooth", Mamdouh Habib,to sue NSW Police.


Mamdouh Habib sues 'racist' police over discrimination

Vanda Carson
The Daily Telegraph
March 29, 201312:00AM

FORMER Guantanamo Bay prisoner Mamdouh Habib has won the right to make a claim of racial discrimination against the NSW police.

Mr Habib, who spent four years in Guantanamo Bay between 2001 and 2005, claims that since his return to Australia police have called him an "Arab terrorist" and a "Muslim terrorist".



He has taken action in the state's Administrative Decisions Tribunal to continue with his complaint after it was rejected by the president of the Anti-Discrimination Board.

Mr Habib, who was born in Egypt, claims there were five incidents of discrimination by police between 2006 and 2011.

He has told the tribunal he has been treated unfavourably because the NSW Police database has a record of him being a "terrorist".

The first of the five alleged incidents occurred in March 2006 when Mr Habib was arrested by police after witnessing a shooting at Granville, in Sydney's west.

As he was escorted to the police paddy wagon, Mr Habib claims one police officer said to another: "Put this terrorist in the wagon."

When he appeared at the tribunal, Mr Habib's recollection of the event changed, and he claimed police said: "Put this bloody Arab terrorist in the wagon."

Mr Habib won $9000 for psychiatric harm from the Victims Compensation Tribunal over the incident.

The second alleged incident involved an unnamed female police officer referring to him as a "terrorist" a year later when Mr Habib was outside Bankstown Local Court.

He was at the court to enter a plea on charges of offensive behaviour and offensive language at a Bankstown McDonald's. He was convicted of the charges but this was overturned on appeal. Police investigated the incident and found the officer had acted unprofessionally - she was counselled.

Mr Habib also claims two incidents where police refused to charge drivers who collided with his car showed police were discriminating against him because he was Middle Eastern. The final alleged incident of racial discrimination occurred in 2011 at St George Police Station where he went to report a claim that he was assaulted by three men in an ice cream shop. Mr Habib says he was "scanned" by Senior-Constable Joe Zammit.

This was found to have been an improper search. No date for the hearing has been set.



So what IS the Habib story? this is part of it.
FOUR CORNERS

Australian Broadcasting Corporation

Worst of the Worst?
In "Worst of the Worst?" Four Corners looks at the most revealing and comprehensive account so far about Egyptian-born Habib, and what he did before he was detained at Guantanamo Bay and deprived of his legal rights.
Date: 20/07/2004

SALLY NEIGHBOUR, REPORTER: In November 2001 in Hamburg, German police interrogators went to work on two suspected al-Qaeda recruits arrested in Pakistan in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks on America. The two suspects were linked with the now-infamous Hamburg cell, headed by the September 11 ringleader Mohammed Atta. The pair had been captured after leaving a training camp in Afghanistan in the days after the attacks. The two suspects were grilled for days about their al-Qaeda links and their training and about an Australian man who had been arrested with them.

INTERROGATING OFFICER (TRANSLATION): What can you say about the Australian? What was his name and what did he tell you?

BEKIM ADEMI (TRANSLATION): He came from Sydney. He's married with four children.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: The Sydney man named by the two Germans was well known to the Australian authorities. He had been watched by ASIO for years in a long saga leading up to his capture.

IBRAHIM DIAB (TRANSLATION): He planned to move to Pakistan with his family. Later in prison, I found out his name. It was Mamdouh Habib.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Almost three years later, Mamdouh Habib's family is still waiting for him to come home. Habib is one of two Australians incarcerated in Guantanamo Bay, reportedly beaten, abused and tormented, and until two weeks ago denied any legal rights. The two Germans who named him have long since been released. And exactly why Habib is still being held remains largely a mystery.
Tonight on Four Corners, we piece together the troubled story of Mamdouh Habib, the cleaner turned coffee shop owner and father of four from suburban Sydney who somehow ended up in the prison camp America reserves for the men it calls "the worst of the worst".
In 1995, caught on home video playing at the beach with his children, Mamdouh Habib looks like a man without a worry in the world. Habib had moved to Australia from Egypt in 1984, married a local Lebanese-Australian girl, Maha, and had two sons and a daughter, with a second girl to follow.

IBRAHIM FRASER, FRIEND: Mamdouh is a great guy. He's really family-oriented and very dedicated to his family.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: The Habib family settled in Sydney's south-west. Habib ran a cleaning company and later opened a coffee shop in Haldon Street, Lakemba.

IBRAHIM FRASER: Well, this is Haldon Street. I go up and down Haldon Street all the time. Just up here, next to the National Bank here, is the coffee shop that Mamdouh owned. It's really funny coming back.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: One of his regular customers was a local taxi driver Ibrahim Fraser, an Australian-born Muslim convert who lived nearby.
IBRAHIM FRASER: Mamdouh, to me, is friendly and outgoing and, uh, very interested in people and, you know, the welfare of people.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Habib's cafe in Lakemba's main shopping strip was a popular meeting place for the Lebanese and Egyptian-born communities. His friend Khalil Chami, who runs a bookshop in Haldon Street, says Habib threw himself into community life.

SHEIK KHALIL CHAMI, ISLAMIC WELFARE CENTRE: I mean, he's active and he was working hard with the community and he invited people and he's not selfish. I mean, he's a person... I mean, he will invite you to coffee and he will never take money for the coffee. He is very generous in this line.

MAHA HABIB: He's always said to the kids, you know, he said, "No matter what, if anyone ever asks you for any help and you can help, don't hesitate to do it, because one day you will need someone."

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Habib's wife Maha would not be interviewed for this program. This interview was filmed by 'The 7:30 Report' in late May.

MAHA HABIB: And he's always told them, "Never be afraid of the truth, because if you've done anything wrong, alright, you have to face your problem, OK?"

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Habib prayed at the Lakemba mosque and taught Islamic scripture at a local high school. His friends say he was not an extremist but took his faith seriously.

IBRAHIM FRASER: He told me that, you know, to be a good Muslim you had to live Islam, and that's what he did. He lived Islam and to me he was a great inspiration, Islamically.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Habib was a follower of Australia's most senior Islamic cleric, Sheik Taj, a man whose views have been called extreme. Sheik Taj was almost deported in the '80s for comments like this.

(HOME VIDEO FOOTAGE FROM 1988 PLAYS)

SHEIK TAJ ON VIDEO (TRANSLATION): The Jews try to control the world through sex, then sexual perversion, then the promotion of espionage, treachery and economic hoarding.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Sheik Taj has mellowed over the years, although he was condemned again more recently for calling the September 11 attacks "God's work against oppressors." Habib too was a man of strong views.

SHEIK TAJ ALDIN AL-HILALY (TRANSLATION): He was always trying to put his nose into everything, to poke his nose into a lot of things. He was a talkative man. Always interfering in matters regardless of whether they interested him or not. That was part of his personality. He was sharp and aggressive. He would get angry quickly and then calm down quickly. Mamdouh is like that - he always brings problems upon himself.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: In 1991 Mamdouh Habib took his family on a holiday to his native Egypt and then to see his sisters in New York. It was on this journey that his problems began.
While Habib was in New York, a celebrated court case was under way. It was the trial of an Islamic militant El Sayyid Nosair, who was charged with shooting dead an extremist rabbi, Meir Kahana, during a function at a New York hotel. Every day during the trial, rival camps of Muslim and Jewish protesters gathered outside the court. Mamdouh Habib was invited by an old school friend to join the crowd who rallied to yell support for the accused killer.

MAHA HABIB: Someone has said that, um, there was a person who'd been accused of killing some, I don't know, um, Jewish... What do you call them? Um, 'rab...'
INTERVIEWER: Rabbi.
MAHA HABIB: Rabbi, yeah. And his case is running. "Just for out of support, do you want to come?" I went to court too.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: The man who invited Habib to join the protest was an old friend from his school days in Egypt, Ibrahim El-Gabrowny, a cousin of the accused killer. Also at the court was another friend of Habib's, Mahmud Abouhalima. The men were all followers of the militant Egyptian-born cleric Omar Abdul Rahman, known as the 'blind sheik', who urged his flock to "kill the enemies of God" and rid the world of the descendants of "apes and pigs fed at the table of Zionism, communism and imperialism".
The blind sheik's followers were jubilant when Nosair was acquitted of the murder despite having been arrested with the gun still in his hand. He was convicted on gun charges instead. Mamdouh Habib joined in the celebrations.

MAHA HABIB: What's wrong with going to court? I can go to any court now and see any...hear any hearings. Is that wrong?

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: 15 months after Habib's trip to America, the World Trade Center in New York was bombed, leaving six people dead and more than 1,000 injured. The blind sheik Omar Abdul Rahman and Habib's friends El-Gabrowny and Abouhalima were arrested and later convicted over the attack and plans to bomb other New York landmarks.
MAHA HABIB: Put it this way - say if your friends from school...you had your friends from school, OK? And you used to go with them to school and afterwards, you know, um, you'd met them after you got married and, you know, long time ago, and whatever they've done wrong, would that blame you too?

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Back home in Sydney, Habib took up the blind sheik's cause, organising a protest to support the jailed cleric whom he described as his teacher.

SHEIK ABU AYMAN, NATIONAL EMIR, AHLUS SUNNAH WAL JAMA'AH: I heard him say, "I was one of the students of this man." This is from his mouth to the brothers - not to me in particular, but to everyone.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: He said he was a student of the blind sheik?

SHEIK ABU AYMAN: Yep. That's what he said.

SHEIK TAJ ALDIN AL-HILALY, MUFTI, AUSTRALIAN ISLAMIC COMMUNITY (TRANSLATION): He used to come and argue with me in my office many, many times. I used to listen to him. "Should be, do something, should be. We have to support the case of Dr Omar Abdul Rahman, he's innocent." I would say, "OK, God willing." He would get angry and leave my office, very upset. The same thing happened many times. He would come to see me, we would disagree, then he would come back after a few months and try again.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: From his home in Sydney's west, Habib stayed in contact with his friends in New York. Phone records produced in the US court case revealed a series of calls between Habib's house and the men on trial for the bombing. Habib later claimed he was discussing a business deal with his friend El-Gabrowny and fundraising for the blind sheik.

INTERVIEWER: There is some evidence that he had connections with terrorists, though, isn't there? For example, the phone calls with...

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Habib's lawyer Stephen Hopper refused to be interviewed for this program. This interview was filmed by Four Corners last year.

STEPHEN HOPPER, LAWYER FOR HABIB: It was about $500, which was raised by Mamdouh from the community, and the reason why that money was raised is there seemed to be a debate over whether the US authorities were giving the sheik his diabetes medication. And this has been documented in the press.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Habib's contacts with the World Trade Center bombers and his support for the blind sheik aroused the interest of ASIO, which paid him a call. The knock on the door - in late '93 by his wife's account - would be the first of many.

STEPHEN HOPPER: We know from about 1996 until the time he left to Pakistan in July 2001, ASIO had put him under scrutiny. And that's quite a number of years. But during all that time there were no charges ever laid and in the latter part of it, ASIO asked him to be an informer for them and offered to put him on a payroll. And Mamdouh Habib refused to do that. He didn't want to spy for anybody.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: While the home videos continued to show the same old smiling Mamdouh, beneath the happy exterior was a man under mounting pressure. The attention from ASIO was not his main worry. Business was going badly. Habib's cleaning company had a contract with the Defence Housing Authority cleaning defence homes. After a series of complaints that his work was substandard, Habib lost the job.

IBRAHIM FRASER, FRIEND: He said that he was cheated and that the Government owed him all this money and that he was victimised on grounds...on the basis that he was Muslim and Egyptian.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: After Habib made a series of angry phone calls, the Defence Housing Authority took out an apprehended violence order against him. In court, witnesses told of abuse and threats by Habib.

(EXTRACTS FROM WITNESS EVIDENCE PLAY)
WOMAN: He became very angry. He said it was unfair what we had done to him and his company and he was going to get us for that.
WOMAN 2: He said to me, "I'll tell you what happened to a woman who was working for some people. She had acid thrown in her face and she was badly damaged by that." I said, "So what has that got to do with me?" And he said, "Nothing, but people have to be very careful."

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: His psychiatrist testified that Habib was suffering from major depression and was being treated with Prozac, but that he was not prone to violence.
(WITNESS EVIDENCE CONTINUES)

MAN: He is irritable. He has been preoccupied with a sense of hopelessness about his future. He has become withdrawn and he has been very agitated at home and he has been crying excessively as well. There is no evidence to suggest that he is aggressive or about to become aggressive or violent. He is not dangerous at this point.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: During the court case, police searched Habib's home and found a gun and ammunition that he held under licence. The magistrate ordered the gun destroyed and Habib's shooter's licence was cancelled. The Defence Housing Authority got an AVO for five years.

IBRAHIM FRASER: He felt that because it was the Government, the Government always wins - the Government's on the side of the Government and that's it.

SHEIK TAJ ALDIN AL-HILALY, MUFTI, AUSTRALIAN ISLAMIC COMMUNITY (TRANSLATION): He used to imagine that... He used to think that he was a victim, that he was being discriminated against and that everyone was against him. He felt that there were hidden forces watching him - that was a delusion. I used to try and make things easier for him and give him psychological support, but he had those delusions.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: After falling out with Sheik Taj, Habib began attending a more radical mosque just up the road in Lakemba. The prayer room in the arcade off Haldon Street is well known to ASIO for the sometimes extreme views that are preached there. Its spiritual leader is Sheik Abu Ayman. The sheik remembers Habib well from the day Habib trooped up the stairs to the prayer room dressed in a karate suit.

SHEIK ABU AYMAN, NATIONAL EMIR, AHLUS SUNNAH WAL JAMA'AH: Usually I don't recognise people, but when he came to talk to me and he had special hat, this ninja hat or something like that, and white suit and black belt. And I know these kind of people. I've been across so many people in my life. And I saw him that night with these clothes on, just I gave him a big smile.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: What did you think about that?

SHEIK ABU AYMAN: Better not... (Laughs) Sorry about that, but... (Laughs) Better not to say what I was thinking about.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: According to Abu Ayman, Habib became even more conspicuous for the argumentative ways he brought with him.

SHEIK ABU AYMAN: I would say he is an attention seeker. I would say he loves the people to give their ears to him. And again, I could say he's a disturbed man. If you don't agree with him, he will accuse you of every name under the sun, and again, this is not a normal thing from a normal person to do.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: What would he argue about?

SHEIK ABU AYMAN: The hot issues that people argue about these days. It started with Sheik Omar Abdul Rahman, then Osama bin Laden, then jihad - this is the issues that people argue about these days.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: And what would he say about Osama bin Laden and jihad?

SHEIK ABU AYMAN: Now, he's in trouble already. I don't want to make him in a worse situation, but it's been recorded and I'm sure the Government knew about it. He used to wear the photo of Osama bin Laden, his T-shirt. As I said, this is a childish thing. A man doesn't do that. Even if you love someone, you don't wear a shirt like... This is for the children.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Habib was certainly not the only one in the prayer room to support Bin Laden and advocate jihad or holy struggle. Abu Ayman and his congregation have been under close watch for years because of the extreme views expressed by some of his followers. The man who runs the prayer room, Abdul Salam Zoud, was named in a French court dossier as a recruiter for jihad - a claim he denies. Several men who have attended the prayer room are currently facing terrorism-related charges.

SHEIK ABU AYMAN: Most of it is ill talk based on no evidence whatsoever. And that's the fact. They have to blame someone. There is always...in any agenda, there is a scapegoat. It has to be all the time someone to put the blame on. And this is why you find us sometimes, yes, saying something the public doesn't like, for example, or the Government doesn't like.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: The reason the Government doesn't like what's preached in the prayer room is apparent from the sermons available on video in the bookshop up the road.
(FOOTAGE FROM 'THE ENEMY'S PLOT' PLAYS)

SHEIK FEIZ: What is really meant by the term, by the wording, by the so-called war on terrorism? Does it leave any doubt in anyone's mind that it is nothing but a war on Islam and the Muslims to ensure the Zionist - those pigs - the Zionist-American domination in every corner of this earth?

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: This is one offering from Abu Ayman's star protege, a young firebrand from Liverpool known as Sheik Feiz, whose weekly lectures in the prayer room Mamdouh Habib used to attend.

(VIDEO FOOTAGE CONTINUES)
SHEIK FEIZ: Go to Iraq today and see your brothers and sisters! See them! See what is happening there! It's gonna happen to you one day! Their heads are being blown off, their legs are being amputated, their arms, their bodies. Their meat is being just thrown off their bodies. Look! And we are too comfortable with cultivation! We're too scared to go to jihad! What are you living for?

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: The call to jihad was like a magnet for Habib. He was so enthused he began signing people up, according to Abu Ayman.

SHEIK ABU AYMAN: So they give their names. Then they find out after that he's collecting these names for so-called jihad or something like that.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: What do you mean by that? What do you mean "collecting names for jihad"?

SHEIK ABU AYMAN: Who wants to go to jihad, or something like that.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: So was he trying to get people to go overseas to fight, do you mean?

SHEIK ABU AYMAN: I would say that, yes.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Do you know where?

SHEIK ABU AYMAN: No, but it's obvious. That time was Chechnya and Chechnya was the main area, the hot area in that time.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: It wouldn't have been the first time someone from the prayer room headed off to jihad. Other followers of Abu Ayman are known to have trained and fought with militant Islamic groups overseas. But for a group already under suspicion, Habib's overt lobbying and collecting of names was dangerous. He was told to stop.

SHEIK ABU AYMAN: This is the problem. Loud mouth is a big problem. To go and do whatever you want. The Government want to blame us for that. It's your problem and it's your personal issues. We cannot stop anyone to do what he wants to do, except in the area we are authorised to stop. And this is what we did.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: In March 2000, Habib packed his bags and headed off overseas. His destination was not Chechnya but Pakistan. He was away for just under two months. Habib's exact movements are unclear but he spoke to his friend Ibrahim Fraser before he left.

IBRAHIM FRASER: I met him at a cafe in Lakemba and he discussed to me that he had plans to go to Afghanistan to live an Islamic life in the Bin Laden camp. He felt that that was a good life to lead. He thought that would be good for his children. He thought that his children would have an Islamic upbringing and that they would also be able to study the Koran and everything Islamic. So he told me that. I said to him, "So do you mean that you would go for jihad?" And he said, "Well, if that's...if that was necessary, because..." He said, "But I really only want to live there. I'm not really interested in jihad, but I really want to live with Bin Laden."

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: According to Australian authorities, Habib travelled to Pakistan and Afghanistan. Four Corners has been told that on this trip he did military training with the Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Toiba, which has since been listed as a banned terrorist group in Australia. The authorities say that notes from an L-e-T weapons course were later found in Habib's home. Several months later, back in Lakemba, Ibrahim Fraser spotted his friend again in Haldon Street.

IBRAHIM FRASER: I said, "Oh, well, so how was Afghanistan?" He said "Great." He said, "This is truly a great place."

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Did he tell you what he'd done there?

IBRAHIM FRASER: No, he didn't tell me whether he'd done anything in Afghanistan. He didn't tell me...he didn't say that he'd been on jihad. He hadn't said that he had done any training. He just told me that he'd been looking for a...that he'd been to...met Bin Laden and been there and found it to be a really great place and...

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: He said he'd met Bin Laden?

IBRAHIM FRASER: I think so. I think he had. I think that's what he said.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: In the lead-up to the Sydney Olympics, the police and ASIO stepped up their interest in Habib. The authorities didn't know at this stage of his movements overseas but they were keen to pump him for information on the prayer room, which was now under close surveillance.
Habib wrote to the Inspector-General of Intelligence, the first of many written complaints to a range of authorities.

LETTER FROM MAMDOUH HABIB TO THE INSPECTOR-GENERAL: "Dear Sir, I would like to lodge a formal complaint against the ASIO. I have been harassed by them for over 5 years. I am facing a lot of problems and I request help from your department to seek for my rights. If I do not have the help from your department, I will consider to seek for my rights in a different country."

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: The Inspector-General later wrote back to inform Habib that ASIO did not intend to interview him again, except in the unlikely event that new information came to hand. But by this time, Habib's contacts with ASIO were an open secret in Haldon Street. Rumours swirled around Lakemba that Habib was a spy.

IBRAHIM FRASER: I remember once somebody said to me, "Just be careful about this guy." And I said "Why?" I mean, "What's wrong with Mamdouh?" you know. And they said, "No, you've got to be careful because he...he's got connections."

SHEIK ABU AYMAN, NATIONAL EMIR, AHLUS SUNNAH WAL JAMA'AH: We are under scrutiny from the Government and from everyone. Then someone come to say to us, "Let's go to jihad. Let's do that. Let's do this." And first thing comes to your mind - "That man wants to put us in trouble." That's why he wants to say, "Yes, yeah, let's go." Then he will go and report us. This is what...a normal thing to think about these people. And you don't blame anyone. This doesn't mean he is.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: But you thought he was working for ASIO or the Government trying to make trouble for you?

SHEIK ABU AYMAN: Doesn't mean he is, but it's normal to think he is.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: As the rumours escalated, Habib started complaining to his local MP, the Labor Member for East Hills, Alan Ashton.

ALAN ASHTON, MEMBER FOR EAST HILLS: He told me that the problem he had there was that the mosque authorities were accusing him of being, essentially, either an ASIO agent or a CIA agent. And that they had declared him at one stage... He used this word to me - 'halal'. And there are various definitions of that term, but the impression I got from him was that this meant that he could be killed - or sacrificed, if you like - if at any time he came into the Lakemba area and attempted to go to that mosque.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: The bad blood between Habib and the men of the prayer room came to a head when a stranger from an Islamic group in Holland showed up collecting funds for the Chechen mujahadeen. The Dutchman, known as Abu Zer, was befriended by Habib. Abu Ayman and his colleagues became angry when they learned the visitor was using their group's name to raise funds. The sheiks confiscated the Dutchman's passport and demanded he give the money back.

SHEIK ABU AYMAN: We never heard of this man. We didn't know anything about him. Now, we don't give anyone the authority to collect any money for any reason whatsoever.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Habib described the argument with the man who runs the prayer room in a letter to his MP, Alan Ashton.

EXTRACT FROM MAMDOUH HABIB'S LETTER TO ALAN ASHTON: "He also said in front of many people that if I ever do come back to this mosque, he will break my head and cut my legs and hands into pieces."

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Habib claims that you said to him that you would break his head and cut his legs and hands into pieces and that you said - you asked, and I quote, "every Muslim to have him killed because his blood is halal".

SHEIK ABDUL SALAM, NSW EMIRE, AHLUS SUNNAH WAL JAMA'AH: I didn't say like this. I didn't say this. And I was surprised first when I heard from you now I said this. I deny it. And I challenge if I did say these words.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: What did you say to him?

SHEIK ABDUL SALAM: Just, "Please, Mamdouh, please don't come to this prayer room." He said, "Why?" I said, "You know why. Because you're making trouble with the...some people and I want...I don't want any trouble to be in my place here or in the prayer room."

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: The dispute at the prayer room ended in blows when Habib showed up again with a video camera and began filming people as they left through the arcade.
Why was he doing that? Why was he filming people?

SHEIK ABU AYMAN: For so many reasons. A disturbed man, or a man wants to make trouble, they can, for teasing us enough...to create a problem. Maybe he's not shooting at all, he just putting the camera like this and letting the people feel they are being recorded, so they go and make a fight. 

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Two men were charged with assaulting Habib. One was the former Qantas baggage handler Bilal Khazal, currently facing charges of making documents likely to facilitate terrorism. The assault charges were eventually dropped for lack of a complainant after Habib's arrest. The Bankstown police investigated Habib's complaints to Alan Ashton of threats to himself and his family. The police concluded that the sole issue was Habib having been barred from the mosque and that his accusations were "grossly exaggerated and fictional". But in Habib's mind it all remained very real.

ALAN ASHTON, MEMBER FOR EAST HILLS: I think he was very frightened. He wrote one letter that just virtually headlined the letter, "It was a cold-blooded murder attempt," and he's underlined it. And then he goes on to describe having guns pointed at him and other things that happened. So by this stage he was very fearful, I think, for his life and his wife and his children.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Habib also complained to Alan Ashton's office that he'd been abused at his children's school and that rumours were being spread there that he was a spy.
ALLAN WINTERBOTTOM, ASHTON'S ELECTORATE ASSISTANT: He rang late one evening and he said about the problems with the children and, er, various people at the school were making it very uncomfortable for his children to attend. And he mentioned about the mosque where he was allegedly assaulted. And I suggested why doesn't he go to another school and another mosque and he raised his voice and said that he'd rather kill his own children than to change his place of worship.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: By early 2001, behind the familiar smiling face of Mamdouh Habib there was clearly a man on the edge. At a meeting with Bankstown police, Habib was described as showing "signs of hostility towards government organisations and the community generally". The Protective Services Group was asked to do "a detailed threat assessment" of Mr Habib. The final conclusion was that there was no information to support concerns that Habib might carry out an act of violence. The police decided Habib was "a repetitious and vexatious complainant" and that "little credibility could be attributed to any threats or allegations he may make".

ALAN ASHTON: While he never made any threats and never said anything that you would take to be a threat, it was just all the contacts he had and all the letters and that frustration. And occasionally his conversation with me would be along the lines of, "Do I have to leave the country?" And that's what he did.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: On July 29, 2001, Mamdouh Habib headed overseas again. His destination was Pakistan. He told several people he was going to find a religious school for his children.

MAHA HABIB: Believe it or not, we were going to go all together. All of us, you know, to see... We've heard that Pakistan has a very good reputation in teaching the kids the Koran, memorising the Koran, alright? And I guarantee you, whoever memorise the Koran and understand it, there won't be any problem. There won't be any, um, you know... Because knowing the Koran is a way of life, OK?

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Habib's exact movements after he arrived in Pakistan are once again unclear. His wife, Maha, claims he travelled only within Pakistan. The Australian Government claims Habib was in Afghanistan when the attacks on America took place on September 11 that year.
All that the Government has said publicly is that Habib is alleged to have trained with al-Qaeda. Four Corners has been given a more detailed account. We're told that while he was in Afghanistan, Habib did an advanced al-Qaeda training course in a camp near Kabul. It's claimed the course included surveillance and photographing facilities, the establishment and use of safe houses, covert travel and writing secret reports. Australian authorities say that several other men who took part in the course identified Habib as having been there. Evidence to support these claims is still to be produced.

IBRAHIM FRASER, FRIEND: I don't believe he's a terrorist. I just believe he's Mamdouh Habib looking for a place for his children to study. I mean, to do training doesn't mean to say that you actually participated in any war. People join the army but they don't all go to war. They do the training and not all people go to war.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: In the wake of September 11, ASIO raided and searched Habib's home. It was just after this that Maha Habib spoke to her husband for the last time.

MAHA HABIB: I told him. He said, "Have we got anything to hide?" I said, "No." He said, "Then don't worry about it." That's what he said and he was so calm about it. He said, "Just don't worry. Just relax." I was really upset. I asked him, actually, "Have you found a school?" And he didn't... Actually he didn't sound too good. He said, "Don't worry. I'll tell you when I come. Everything's upside down." That's after September 11. So he said, "I'll tell you all about it when I come home."

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Habib called again a few days later when no-one was home and left a message.

MAHA HABIB: Last thing we've heard was on the answering machine. He was saying, "I'm on my way back home." So we felt happy, you know, and I said, "That's it. He's coming!"

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Habib was in Quetta, near the Pakistan-Afghanistan border, on his way home. It was there he met the two Germans, Ibrahim Diab and Bekim Ademi, who were also heading home from Afghanistan.

IBRAHIM DIAB (TRANSLATION): When we arrived at the bus stop, we met an Australian. He told us he was going to look for a school for his children, but that he didn't like Pakistan. Like us, he was planning to go back home as quickly as possible. We went with him by taxi to the town centre because we planned to buy presents for our families there. The Australian bought shoes for his daughter.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Habib and the Germans took a bus for Karachi. But five hours into their journey, the bus was stopped by Pakistani police and the two Germans were hauled off. It apparently wasn't Habib they were after. Four Corners has been told that it was only when Habib piped up and protested in his usual fashion about the treatment of his companions that the Pakistanis said, "Well, if you're travelling with them, you can come too," and arrested Habib as well.

INTERROGATING OFFICER (TRANSLATION): I'm asking you again when and where you met the Australian, Habib.

IBRAHIM DIAB (TRANSLATION): I met him at the bus stop in Quetta.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: The two Germans were released after their government intervened on their behalf. Under lengthy interrogation, they said nothing that incriminated Habib.

INTERROGATING OFFICER (TRANSLATION): We have information that the Australian, Habib, was also in a training camp near Kabul. Did you see him there? Did he tell you about that?

BEKIM ADEMI (TRANSLATION): No. I didn't see him in the camps I was in. Nor did he tell us that he had been into a training camp.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Unlike the Germans, the Australian Government has made no effort to have its citizen brought home.

PHILIP RUDDOCK, ATTORNEY GENERAL: If people go abroad to train with terrorist organisations, to learn how to use weapons against civilian populations, uh, they do pose a significant risk to your society.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Since his capture in Pakistan, the Government has seemed quite happy to have someone else deal with Mamdouh Habib. The Government is even less keen to have Habib brought home after advice from the Director of Public Prosecutions that neither he nor the other Australian in Guantanamo Bay, David Hicks, has committed any offence under Australian law at the time.

PHILIP RUDDOCK: The United States sought advice from us as to whether we could successfully prosecute Hicks and Habib and the advice they received from us is they could not be. Um, so our view has always been that if there were serious issues to be tried and the United States believed they were in a position to pursue those matters, it would be foolish for us to be seeking their return to Australia in the knowledge that they would have to be released.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: From Pakistan, Habib was sent to Egypt, where he was kept blindfolded and reportedly tortured for several months.

EXTRACT FROM LETTER FROM MAMDOUH HABIB TO MAHA HABIB: "I've been in too many different places - I never know where I am... I've been blindfolded for eight months - I never see the sun, but I see you and our kids every minute. I never forget you or forget my children."

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Habib was then sent to Guantanamo Bay, where he's been held now for more than two years, beaten and abused, according to the accounts of former detainees. The label "worst of the worst" used for the men held here has now been exposed as a fiction.

TORIN NELSON, FORMER GUANTANAMO BAY INTERROGATOR: Almost everybody that has come down to Guantanamo Bay to work there has usually gotten off the plane thinking that they're going to be working with 600-plus al-Qaeda and hard-core Taliban members. And then after not too long a period when they actually interact with them, they find that the majority of these individuals are...distantly removed from that type of idea. And you can see this evident in the fact that so few charges have been brought up against the detainees that are actually there.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: Mamdouh Habib's family has heard nothing from him since March last year. His wife can only imagine the state he might be in. She's heard reports that can't be confirmed that he's dazed and confused, has refused his medication for depression, believes his family is dead.

MAHA HABIB: There's no correspondence, there's no letters. And he is... The Red Cross actually has said that he is refusing to write back. But why would he refuse to write back, you know? Doesn't... There's no explanation. I can't understand it.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: It may be many more years before Habib's family sees him again, because even after his trial by a US military commission, there is no guarantee he'll be released as long as the so-called 'war on terror' continues.

PHILIP RUDDOCK, ATTORNEY GENERAL: The argument that the United States has taken is that, in this war in which they're engaged, they don't wish to release people that they believe are likely to go back and resume hostilities.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: But that would blow away one of the most fundamental principles of the rule of law, would it not, if they were to do their time and still not be released?

PHILIP RUDDOCK: As I understand it, one of the...one of the accepted principles in the conduct of war under Geneva Conventions is that prisoners of war are held until the end of hostilities.

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: And in this case, that could be 50 years?

PHILIP RUDDOCK: Well, we don't know, do we?

SALLY NEIGHBOUR: What we do know is that there's no happy ending in sight to the long and sorry story of Mamdouh Habib.
What was your reaction when you learned he was in Guantanamo Bay?

SHEIK ABU AYMAN: Somehow, I wasn't surprised, because a man with a big mouth like this, he will end up there. In another way I was really shocked, because the assessment of the Government should be better than anyone else. They know he's a disturbed man, they know his background. He never did a real threat or a real problem for the Government or for outsiders. But the Government didn't do anything to let the American understand "This is not the right man in your hand. He is not what he claims he is." He is a disturbed man. He doesn't deserve that punishment for his big mouth.

Tuesday, June 02, 2009

Hussein Obama and now Kevin 07's Uighur Muslim problem

Obama’s stuck with his Gitmo promises

Piers Akerman
News.com.au
Monday, June 01, 2009

US PRESIDENT Obama is in a jam and wants Australians to help him out. Like our own Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, Obama ran an election campaign big on promises that he is having difficulty keeping.

One of those big promises was a pledge to close Guantanamo Bay in the first 100 days of his presidency. But first Obama has to find somewhere to place its remaining 250 or so inmates, most of whom are unlikely to face prosecution.

Among those who won’t face court action are 17 Uighur people. The US would like Australia to accept them.

The Uighur are Muslims from northern China. They want a separate Muslim homeland; there is little doubt they are persecuted by the Chinese, just as are the Tibetans. There is little doubt that they would not be safe from the Chinese, if they were returned to their homes.

But Obama wasn’t thinking about the Uighur when he vowed to close the Guantanamo. He was playing domestic politics, appealing to people like his married friends Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, a pair of America’s worst urban terrorists, in whose living room he is said to have decided on a political career.

Ayers and Dohrn were members of the Weathermen, a group of terrorists who blew up government buildings around the US in the late ‘60s and early ‘70s, fortunately killing no-one but three of their own members.

Obama has learnt that the views of Ayers and Dohrn are not representative of many other Americans, most of whom realise that Gitmo houses some very bad people. No matter how small-L liberal Obama’s supporters are, they are not liberal enough to want Gitmo-quality people living in their neighbourhood.

Obama didn’t see this coming. Nor was he aware of a Pentagon report recently obtained by The New York Times which found that one in seven of the 534 prisoners transferred abroad from Guantanamo Bay returned to terrorism or militant activity.

Even Obama’s own Democrat Party colleagues are baulking at resettling Guantanamo Bay inmates in the US, which is why Obama has asked Australia to take at least some of the Uighur prisoners who have been held there for the past seven years.

This is the third request the US has made to Australia to accept Uighur detainees, the first two being made by the Bush administration.

This request differs, however, from those made by the Bushies, as former president Bush made no pledge to close Guantanamo and the approach to Australia was a resettlement issue, rather than the domestic US political problem it has now become.

Australia is essentially being asked to take the 10 Uighur to help Obama out of a political jam of his own making.

According to Mamtimin Ala, the general secretary of the Australian Uighur Association and member of the executive committee of the World Uighur Congress, the Uighur have been found not to be enemy combatants by the US courts and the US now has a moral responsibility to offer them homes in the US.

“It is primarily a US problem,” Ala told me. “But the American government fears creating outrage and unexpected repercussions if they permitted those Uighur to resettle in the US.”

Ala, a human rights activist who was granted an Australian protection visa last year and now has permanent residency here, previously lived in Brussels where he studied at a Belgian university for his masters in philosophy.

He argues that because Australia was a partner in the war on terror, it should accept a degree of responsibility for the Guantanamo inmates, if the US will not resettle them.

That argument is a little weak.

Australia needs migrants who want to be Australians, not migrants who see their future as hyphenated-Australians, owing a shared allegiance to another nation, and supporting foreign militants.

We already have difficulty dealing with groups who refuse to embrace the clearly recognisable Australian identity, preferring to fight ethnic and religious wars either by proxy though fund-raising exercises or through violence at sporting events and other opportunistic moments.

This is a difficult call as we have about 5000 Uighur living here now, and according to all accounts, quite peaceably, just as we have a small number of Tibetans.

There is no doubt that China would not like America or Australia to accept the Guantanamo Uighur.

China is a bully and China requires its diplomats to organise its expatriate communities to intervene in our domestic politics and make its views felt but that should not be a concern.

What is clear here is that Guantanamo, and the fall-out from Obama’s domestic policies, is not a matter for Australia.

When he led the triumphal chant, “Yes, we can,” Obama should have realised there were a few things that blind optimism could not achieve.

He didn’t think things through and we should not be there now to save his political goals. If he thinks he can convince Australians and Australian politicians that the Uighur pose no threat, he can convince his own electors of the same thing.

Monday, January 05, 2009

Rudd WILL listen to Obama's Gitmo pleas

We will listen to Obama's Gitmo pleas

Geoff Elliott and Patricia Karvelas
The Australian
January 05, 2009

THE Rudd Government would still be open to overtures from the incoming Obama administration to reconsider its refusal to take inmates from Guantanamo Bay.

After formally rebuffing for the second time the Bush administration on taking former terror suspects being held at Guantanamo, Acting Prime Minister Julia Gillard said Australia would consider subsequent requests from the US as it tries to close the notorious island prison.

But Ms Gillard played down the prospect of accepting any former prisoners.

"We will consider any future requests on a case by case basis against these stringent criteria for both national security and immigration," she said.

Despite the latest rejection, there were no hard feelings from Washington - at least for now.

A State Department spokesman said "no derogatory shadow is being cast" on the announcement from Ms Gillard to deny the request made in December to take a small group of inmates.

"We realise that a lot of the people coming aren't the kind of people you might want, so there are no negative signs being hung on this," the spokesman told The Australian.

The Bush administration has been looking at ways to close Guantanamo for the past 12 months, including asking more than 100 countries if they might consider taking some of the 60 or so detainees already cleared for release but facing possible persecution if they were returned to their homeland.

In all, there are about 250 detainees in Guantanamo, including many never likely to be released, such as Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks.

After revelations in The Australian, Ms Gillard said the federal Government advised the US on Saturday that Australia would refuse the latest request.

A spokeswoman for Ms Gillard yesterday said the Government had not received any more requests to resettle inmates. "The Government has received two requests to resettle persons from Guantanamo. Both these requests were considered, and rejected," the spokeswoman said.

"The Government has not received any other request. Any future request would be considered on the same basis, which led to the rejection of all earlier requests."

Referring earlier to the two requests to help house detainees from the war on terror, Ms Gillard said: "Those resettlement requests were considered on a case-by-case basis against Australia's stringent national security and immigration criteria.

"Assessing those requests on a case-by-case basis, (they) have not met those stringent national security and immigration criteria and have been rejected."

Opposition legal affairs spokesman George Brandis said the request should never have been considered by Australia.

"We are speaking about people, terrorism suspects captured on the field of battle, detained in Guantanamo Bay who are among the most dangerous people among the world," Senator Brandis said.

President-elect Barack Obama has said closing Guantanamo is a priority; already there have been several overtures from European countries, including Britain, Portugal and Germany, indicating they could resettle detainees.

While the Bush administration requests have fallen on deaf ears, analysts believe soundings from Europe indicate a willingness to turn over a new leaf with the incoming administration and build bridges with Washington.

However, the public has been to ask why the US cannot sort out a mess of its own making and resettle all the detainees in the US, either releasing them or continuing the incarceration.

The State Department spokesman said it was perfectly understandable that many felt the US should be responsible for any resettlement, and noted "many regions in the US are not looking at this favourably either".

"But we may end up having to take them all," he said.

The father of former Guantanamo inmate David Hicks said he thought Australia should consider taking prisoners from the military prison. Australia had been "hand in hand with the American Government on Guantanamo and "should look at it", Adelaide-based Terry Hicks said yesterday.

He said he thought any security concerns about inmates coming to Australia could be addressed by the existing screening process for refugees. "We take people from all over the world, we don't know what their thoughts are," he said.

"I can't see any difference from Guantanamo people and people we bring from overseas through the settlement process."

The left media here in Australia has made a big deal of demanding that Madame Gillard tell that terrible Pres. G W Bush what he can do with HIS prisoners, after all, he captured them and he should take care of them if HE wants to shut down Guantanamo Bay,fair enough, however these same commentators have been demanding the closure of Guantanamo Bay and the release of it's prisoners because Guantanamo Bay is not necessary because there are no terrorists interned there,for instance, David Hicks or "Our David " as his leftist cheer squad preferred to call him, well if there are no terrorists interned there whats the big deal with these internees coming to Australia ? surely an Australia full of "Our David" clones cant be a bad thing ?
The Left in Australia, the Australian Labor Party,has told Australians since 911 that protecting our nation from terrorism by the implementation of stricter immigration and passport regulations was simply GWBush and John Howard beating their chests inciting fear amongst the Australian and American populations, Australia has nothing to fear from Islam, hey just ask Sheik Hilalie, Keysar Trad and David Hicks aka "Our David"

I saw Madame Gillard refuting any suggestion that her government would accept any Guantanamo Bay internees as requested by GWBush, she then went on to say that every applicant would be accepted on a case by case basis, so if Pres.GWBush says for instance "hey Madame Gillard can you take 20 Muslim terrorists off my hands" she says "no way", however if the United States government (aka Barack Obama) says "hey Madame Gillard can you take
20 Muslim terrorists off my hands" she will look at each one on a "case by case basis", so Obama's Muslim terrorist internees are somehow not a threat to Australia but Pres.GWBush's Muslim terrorist internees are?
It must be said here that Australian PM Kevin Rudd, is, along with all things China and it's political system,one of the most gushing Barack Obama groupies on the planet, he leapt to Obama's defence when the previous PM John Howard suggested that the Taliban would prefer an Obama / Democrat president be elected in 2008 than a Republican, Rudd reacted as would be expected he do so, as all good leftists China,Chavez, Obama groupies,would, when one of their political and ideological soul mates,especially a black one, came under attack from a member of the evil "coalition of the willing" or someone who believed that Islamic terrorism was a threat to the west, the politically correct thought police here rolled out the specter of racism and defied any one in the community to dare agree with Howard lest they suffer Tar and Feathering for daring to criticise one of the "enlightened ones" that are the left.

Now let me see Madame Gillard,President Bush's Islamic Terrorists are BAD,but President Barack Obama's Islamic terrorists are not necessarily BAD,in fact they could, in all likely hood be good, given the election of a man to the US Presidency who is a Black Democrat,and also an apologist for Islam and there fore they should be considered on a case by case basis......mmmmmmmmmm I see.

Given PM Rudd's promise to allow the entry of over one million immigrants into Australia before the year 2010, with a preference given to NON English speaking UN Skilled applicants will these referees from Comrade Obama be included in the one million or will they be in addition to the one million NON English speaking UN skilled quota ?

Madame Gillard will your government ever explain to the Australian people as to why the previous Hawke / Keating Labor government allowed the entry into Australia of Muslims from the middle east,
who were refused entry / residency by the Australian Immigration Department in particular Lebanon, just why did the Australian Labor Party over rule the Australian Immigration Department and allow these Muslims into Australia against all advice ?
and could you explain to the Australian people why your party or any government would give preference to immigrants who have declared their hatred for Judeo Christian values and the culture manifested by it, why would the Australian Labor Party in particular enforce a policy of Muslim immigration into Australia, a nation the very antithesis of every thing that the Islamic manifested culture and religion of Islam stand for, just what is it about Australia you despise so much you are so determined to destroy?

Friday, January 02, 2009

Kevin Rudd ,Obama & UN lick spittle to consider taking in Gitmo Terrorists

Hands up all the Australians who want MORE Muslims and Muslim terrorists in Australia.

Kevin Rudd may take Guantanamo Bay inmates


Sid Maher
The Australian
December 27, 2008

KEVIN Rudd has left open the possibility of Australia taking former inmates from the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, but warned that any US request for an inmate to come would be subject to legal criteria and assessed on a case-by-case basis.

As the Greens warned the Prime Minister he faced a political backlash if he accepted detainees held in the US military jail at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, a spokesman for Mr Rudd confirmed that US authorities had approached Australia and other countries about resettling the detainees.

"Australia, along with a number of other countries, has been approached to consider resettling detainees from Guantanamo Bay," the Prime Minister's spokesman said.

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"Any determination for an individual to come to Australia would be made on a case-by-case basis. All persons accepted to come to Australia would have to meet Australia's strict legal requirements and go through the normal and extremely rigorous assessment processes."

The Australian reported yesterday that the US State Department had over the past 12 months cabled more than 100 countries seeking help to clear out Guantanamo Bay.

The incoming administration of Barack Obama, which plans to shut the facility within two years, is expecting help in resettling more than 250 detainees still held at Guantanamo Bay.

About 60 detainees have been cleared for release by US authorities but are unable to return to their homelands because they fear retribution.

Greens senator Rachel Siewert told The Weekend Australian Guantanamo Bay was a creation of the US Government and was therefore Washington's problem. She said the Prime Minister should refuse to take any detainees.

"It's something they should be dealing with on home soil," she said. "We understand some can't go back to their homelands, but in those instances the US Government should be helping them within America."

Guantanamo Bay was opened in 2002 as a way of holding detainees caught in the war on terror beyond the reach of the US courts, where civilian rules for detention would apply.

Some European countries, keen to improve relations with the US, are understood to have said they are willing to help with resettling the detainees.

Germany and Portugal have acknowledged they were considering taking detainees, but The Netherlands has ruled out taking any, arguing it is the responsibility of the country that imprisoned them.

While some inmates are al-Qa'ida linchpins such 9/11 plotter Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, others have been held for years without charge or trial and without presenting any threat to the US or the West.

Australian David Hicks was held there for five years before being convicted last year of providing material support for terrorism. He was returned to Australia to serve nine months' jail before being released and placed under a control order, which expired last weekend.

Another Australian, Mamdouh Habib, was released from Guantanamo Bay without charge in 2005.

Mr Obama & Mr Rudd, Sydney already has, in the south west, entire suburbs occupied (Sydney's "occupied territories") by Islamic terrorists their sympathysers and facilitators, Islamic gang rapists,Islamic murderers and bash artists,Islamic drug distribution and car rebirthing networks.
Many would say that Australia hating Muslim terrorists are just what the Australian Labor Party thinks Australia needs more of as it is consistant with their policy of divide and conquer the Australian people via their disgraced Multiculturalism policy.

The federal opposition leader, Malcolm Turnbull should make this latest planed attack upon Australia by the Australian Labor Party (ALP) as the line in the sand,and say loud and clear now that the ALP's policy of going soft on terrorists,terrorism and illegal entrants will be totally demolished upon the election of a Trunbull led federal Liberal Government.



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