Victorias Bush Fire wild life survivors

Conservative estimates are that there are over one million Australian native animals that have burnt to death in the recent Victorian Bush Fires.
These little guys are just some of the survivors.
Caution some viewers may be upset by the scenes.

These Australian Native animals, along with hundreds of domestic pets burnt to death, as a direct result of policies implemented by the Greens, supported and facilitated by the Victorian Labor Party, in exchange for preferences at Federal,State and Local Government elections.
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd may become struck dumb and cry like a school girl when confronted by the Greens and his party's handiwork whenever a TV camera crew just happens to pass by for an ad lib show of grief, however when all the hand ringing, and instant gratifcationilist's are finished with their public displays of grief, and it's suddenly business as usual for the Godless Earth worshiping bastards and crystal gazers who caused so much death, destruction and misery,I for one will remember who is responsible, and will do all in my power to make it known who, at every opportunity is responsible.
I have personally survived one of these cataclysmic Bush Fires in 1994, caused by the same insane GREEN LOONS and followed by the same Labor RAT BAGS and Socialist spives spewing their offers of an inquiry or a Royal Commission , all designed to divert the victims away from seeing who really caused their misery and the deaths of their loved ones, the arsonists, the Greens and their facilitators the Australian Labor Party,now materialise as the Fire Fighters, aka the Greens / Environmentalists and their Labor Party patrons aided by their MSM lick spittle lackey's delivering various grandiose sermons from the mount, about a new beginning in the management of the environment and how communities interact with the environment in a bio diverse non threatening way, and any other piece of International Socialist / Greens Environmentalist crap that they can dribble from their lower lip.
I have seen it all before, like many, many Australians, I have LIVED what these LOON earth worshiping assassins deny ever existed.

100 years ago the followers and supporters of the Greens and Environmentalist aka Junk Science, would have been herded into the back paddock of humanity so as to ensure they were unable to contaminate the gene pool, after been observed, so as to ensure that the members of this herd were all of the same mind set,this herd of Green LOONS would have been driven off the nearest cliff top so as to ensure the survival of the majority aka their intended victims.

The Manifestations of Greens Junk Science are the Victorian Bush Fires, Kevin 07, Please take note after you take the onion out of your handkerchief and your "tears" dry up and your voice returns.

Bushfire death toll climbs to 189

By Xavier La Canna and Kellee Nolan
News.com.au
February 16, 2009 08:18pm

THE gruesome reality of the search through the rubble of Victoria's bushfires has become clearer as police admit it is difficult to determine whether remains come from one person, or even if they are human.

Police today announced the death toll from the savage fires had risen to 189, only eight more than their last update on Thursday, and would continue to rise.

The revised toll included 40 from the hamlet of Strathewen from its population of 200, while 36 have so far been confirmed dead in
Marysville which is expected to lose 100 of its 500 residents.

While 10 more victims were identified in Strathewen and 21 more in Marsyville, the number of dead has gone down in some areas after remains were fully identified.

The toll in the Churchill fire in Gippsland dropped from 21 to 10.

"In some cases what we are dealing with is just bones. It may be that we've initially thought that was more than one body, but when it has gone to the coroner, they have confirmed it is actually one," a police spokeswoman said.

Huge task

Emergency Services Commissioner Bruce Esplin defended the delay in issuing the latest update, saying that identification of remains was complex and difficult.

The most important thing was that families of the missing were given correct information, Mr Esplin said.

"The sensitivity is to get it right," he said.

"It's a huge task and it's a hugely sensitive task for the police, fire services and the defence force that are supporting them in recovering remains and appropriately identifying remains.

"And it's most important that the families get the right information and they get that information correctly, that there are no mistakes made."

Focus on Marysville

Victoria Police Deputy Commissioner Kieran Walshe said some remains found may never be identified due to the extensive injuries caused by the fire, which will make it tough to know the exact death toll.

"Fire causes extensive disfigurement to bodies. Fire causes extensive damage, and it is a very difficult process in some cases to actually determine whether the remains are human remains," he said.

Mr Walshe said the search for victims in open spaces had finished and authorities were now searching burned-out homes for bodies.

He said authorities were now concentrating on searching buildings in the Marysville area.

"We know the numbers will grow ... as to what the number is going to get to, I just think we should await and let it unfold over the next week or 10 days," Mr Walshe said.

The figure also included 128 victims from the Kinglake complex fire, including 33 from the town of Kinglake itself and 20 from Steels Creek.

The death toll in the Gippsland town of Callignee dropped from 12 to four.

Two deaths have been recorded from Mudgegonga near Beechworth, one at Bendigo and five have died in hospital.

Mr Walshe said it would still be at least a week until some bushfire-hit roads were open to traffic.

"Marysville we know we will not be able to open up that area for probably another 10-14 days," he said.

His comments came the same day court action began against 39-year-old Brendan Sokaluk, from the Gippsland town of Churchill, who is accused of starting the Churchill fire.

Sokaluk did not appear in court, and was remanded in custody to appear at a committal mention on May 26.

He has been charged with one count of arson causing death, one count of intentionally lighting a bushfire and one count of possessing child pornography.

The arson charge carries a maximum penalty of 25 years, with the bushfire charge carrying a maximum penalty of 15 years.

Calm weather on Monday again helped firefighters put in containment lines around the five fires still burning in Victoria.

Department of Sustainability and Environment spokesman Stuart Ord said containment lines surrounded 85 per cent of the Kinglake Murrindindi Complex, while the Bunyip and Beechworth fires were also close to being contained.

Bulldozing work was undertaken near the water catchment areas near Healesville and the Wilson's Promontory fire was still running, but not threatening communities.

Good conditions are forecast for the next two days.

Australian Bush Fires: See what Islamists "took joy " in

Jihadists revel in our misery

Eleni Hale
Sunday Herald Sun
February 15, 2009 12:00am

JIHADISTS are celebrating the worst tragedy in Victoria's history.

Terror watchdogs said fundamentalists had blogged on websites across the globe, applauding the lives lost and destruction.

Senior analyst at SITE Intelligence Group Adam Raisman said they were posting pictures of burnt homes and devastated victims and"taking joy in the scenes".

One jihadist wrote: "It would be an act of revenge for Australian's participation in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq."

Bushfires victims said they were stunned.

What warms the heart of a "Good Muslim" see the video below.

"We're minding our own business and trying to cope with all this and they are celebrating our suffering," said Denise McCann who lost her home in the Kinglake blaze.

Regional Islamic Council vice-president Dr Ameer Ali said the comments did not represent the wider Muslim community.

"They have no idea what they are talking about," he said.

I found the apologists for Islam writing to the letters to the editor at the Herald Sun
true to form eg
"This is an unnecessary and dangerously incendiary article. How stupid and pointless to stir up anti-Muslim sentiment at a time when emotions are running high and there's so much good will and community support to be celebrated." Posted by: Deborah Bartlett Pitt 9:53am today
Dont ya just luv em? If only people would not tell us what Islam is and does they wont hurt us.

Eight victims of the Victoria fires found huddled around baby's body

By Stephen McMahon, Matt Johnston and Ruth Lamperd
The Courier-Mail
February 14, 2009 05:29pm

DISASTER victim identification teams combing Victoria have found large groups of bodies, including one with eight bodies huddled to protect a baby.
Australians have been warned to brace for more bad news on bushfire death as more shocking details of the Victoria fires are revealed.

DVI experts are still combing the worst-affected areas and Detective Inspector Bob Sitlington said patience was needed to enable accurate records of victims to be collected, The Courier Mail reported.

"It is slow but we want to positively identify victims, the last thing we would want to do is misidentify," he said.

Insp Sitlington said he had been with team members in Kinglake yesterday, where earlier in the week experts found horrific scenes, including eight bodies huddled around a baby's body.

"There was a multiple death in a group, and from what I understand they were trying to protect a baby," he said.

"We prayed as a Family and said our good bye's.......he said to me, Marice ...I am sorry baby, I thought we were safe...................'
As well as
Incredible video of one family's escape from death

Sorry,Allah,nothing for you or your Muslim followers to smile about in this video.

"We don't know exactly what happened. Imagine what people naturally do, they tend to cuddle ... and to protect each other, and with the intensity of the fire we do find sometimes bodies are fused together."

The total death toll from the blazes that ripped through the central highlands and Gippsland last Saturday still stands at 181.

The Victorian Coroner is prepared for as many as 300 bodies, Police Commissioner Christine Nixon said.

On Friday, police said 1831 houses had been destroyed and more than 7000 people had been made homeless.

A 39-year-old man has been charged in relation to the Churchill fire in south Gippsland which killed 21 people.

Asbestos is causing problems for victim identification teams and residents have been warned about going through suspicious areas of their homes.

All residents also have been given gloves and masks for safety.

Insp Sitlington said teams were doing their best in difficult circumstances.

"Having 1800 houses, all those deceased that were found in cars or in the open have been dealt with, and now it's a slower way of moving around," he said.

Australia:Victorian Bush Fire victims demand Arsonists be brought to Justice

Victorian Bush Fire Victims demand Arsonists be brought to justice.

Victorian Bush Fires,Meet Koala Sam's Rescuer.

Meet Koala Sam's Rescuer, David Tree, one of Victoria's CFA'S Finest
Caution some scenes may upset some viewers.
Apologies for incorrect name caption on video intro.

An injured Australian Wombat, one of thousands who were either burnt to death or now suffer unimaginable injuries and suffering as a result of the Victorian Bush Fires,With Friends like the Greens, the International Socialists, and the Environmental Industry, this little fella does not need any enemies,conservative estimates now put the number of Australian Native Animals and birds that were burnt to death as been in excess of one million.

Greens Fuel Victorian Bush Fires

Australian Bush Fires:Exhausted &Thirsty Koala Bear receives water from Fire Fighter

Australian Bush Fires:Memories of Canberra blaze rekindled

The Eco Con that keeps on taking

Sydney:Hassan Nagi pleads Guilty to Rape of Three Women

Cabbie offered rape victims cash

By Margaret Scheikowski
News.com.au
February 12, 2009 02:07pm

A SYDNEY taxi driver who raped three female passengers in separate attacks offered one victim up to $50 after sexually assaulting her.

Two of Hassan Nagi's victims were heavily intoxicated, one having earlier vomited, and were on their way home when they were attacked, the NSW District Court has been told.

Nagi, 37, of Bexley, has pleaded guilty to the attacks on each of the women, aged 31, 23 and 27. His DNA linked him to the crimes in June 2003, December 2006 and June 2007.

Judge James Bennett is hearing sentencing submissions.

According to the statement of facts tendered by prosecutor Trevor Bailey, the first victim had been drinking and left a Kings Cross nightclub after feeling sick.

She vomited while outside then lost her memory until she woke up in the front seat of a taxi driven by Nagi.

He tried to grope her before stopping his cab in an unknown dark grassy area where he grabbed her and led her to a large orange crate.

Despite her saying no and saying she had to go, Nagi twice sexually assaulted her before saying: "I'll pay you $20''.

When she replied no, he increased it to $50.

"This is the last thing the victim can remember before she remembers walking back into the Le Panic Club in Kings Cross,'' the facts said.

The second victim also had been at a Kings Cross nightclub, where she became very intoxicated.

"About 3am, the victim contacted her boyfriend and stated that she was seated in the gutter and was planning on catching a taxi home,'' the facts said.

Her next memory was being in the taxi, falling in and out of consciousness, and then the driver getting in the back seat with her.

Nagi forced himself on top of the victim, who unsuccessfully struggled during the attacks.

Her next memory was ringing her boyfriend and telling him what had happened. She was then taken by ambulance to hospital for treatment.

The third victim had been at a football match when she received a phone call from a man who identified himself as her work associate, Mohammed.

They talked of possibly meeting up at Kogarah and she later had a second call when he said he was waiting outside the grounds in a taxi.

However, when she got into a taxi which flashed its headlights at her, she saw it was another man who said he was a friend of Mohammed's.

She asked him to pull over, but Nagi continued driving, speaking on his mobile saying: "She's f###g beautiful man''.

He drove her to an isolated industrial area, where he twice sexually assaulted her.

When she reported the attack to police, her mobile phone revealed the number that had been used to ring her was Nagi's.

He was arrested and DNA retrieved from his hair sample was found to match all three incidents.

Judge Bennett continued Nagi's bail and adjourned the matter to April 23 at Parramatta District Court.

One Million Australian Native Animals sacrificed on the Green Loons alter of Environmentalism & Junk Science.

With conservative estimates, of over one million native animals, like Koala Sam, been burnt alive and or suffocating in the Victorian bush fires, surely it's time Australians caste the Greens,Environmentalists and their associated Leftist Loon followers into the sea with millstones tied around their necks.. did I mention the 181 men women and children,Australians,just like the Roland Family,who, so far we know have died the same way as Sam nearly did, with estimates of over 200 more Australians yet to be confirmed?

Somebody hide Koala Sam before these Godless,Earth Worshiping, ignorant swine,find out she survived.

Australian Koala Bear,burnt in the name of Greens Junk Science.

Greens Fuel Victorian Bush Fires

Australian Bush Fires:Exhausted &Thirsty Koala Bear receives water from Fire Fighter

Australian Bush Fires:Memories of Canberra blaze rekindled

The Eco Con that keeps on taking

Koala Sam receives treatment for burnt feet and meets her CFA rescuer

Remember the people responsible for the plight of this "Koala Sam" and thousands of others like her, demand you believe under threat of legal sanction, their Junk Science of Anthropagenic Global Warming, and that Islam is a Religion of Peace.

The Roland Family, MISSING, believed DEAD.

Greens Trophy? Heterosexual Married couple with Children

David Packham OAM

Leader of the Australian Greens,Bob Brown, left,(I am not joking ), with "life partner" Paul.

Australian Bush Fires:Exhausted &Thirsty Koala Bear receives water from Fire Fighter

Thirsty Koala survives Victorian Fires

Green Loon Adair Turner wants to RATION air travel for UK citizens aka AGENDA 21

Top UK environmentalist wants air travel rationed

The Daily Telegraph
February 11, 2009 12:00am

BRITIAN'S top environmentalist wants to ration UK citizens to just a few airplane trips per year in an attempt to reduce CO2 emissions.

Independent Committee on Climate Change chairman Adair Turner – who advises UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown – made the proposal to parliament’s Environmental Audit Select Committee.

Mr Turner said in his proposal: “We will have to constrain demand in an absolute sense with people not allowed to make as many journeys as they could in an unconstrained manner.”

However, the proposal was condemned by air travel coalition FlyingMatters, who said: “One always suspects with these half-baked proposals that the people who put them forward really intend them to apply to ordinary people, many of whom have only recently gained access to air travel, rather than to themselves.”

This Loon should never be permitted to travel any where in the world by any means other than FOOT, I am sure he she will welcome my suggestion should he she receive it, I mean what better way to show the world your own personal commitment to the environment.
Remember dangerous fools like this, also want you to believe that Islam is a "Religion of Peace" and that unfettered immigration is a good thing.
Just why would this Green Loon arse clown want to be able to control the free movement of British citizens through out the world ?

THE ECO-CON THAT KEEPS ON TAKING

Nancy Levant
June 13, 2005
NewsWithViews.com

Let’s imagine that we all live the Agenda 21 way.

We own no land. We have no guns. We have no vote. Our children are the property of a global government taught by NGO agents called Career Certification Specialists, and God is outlawed and a thing of the past.

We are assigned to employers who are assigned to our settlement territories. There is no local government and there are no counties or cities. We are barred from large forests, natural fresh waters, and beachfront properties, which are all owned by businesses and used, tax free, by their families and friends.

The population of what was once American people, is now squeezed into settlement communities in the center of the country. The wealthy live in mega-mansions, and conservation easements, corridors, and buffer zones separate us from them. The mountains and large forested areas of the country are strictly off limits to Mid-North American people (M-NAPs), and corporate government owns all land and watershed systems.

We drive less and less as government security and the Real ID denies more and more driver’s licenses for more and more reasons. The cut-off age for driver’s licenses is lowered to 60 and the driving age is raised to following compulsory military service, but all driving is restricted to 25 miles a week. Then 20. Then 15, and so forth.

Employers send trams to pick us up for work and drop us off. That will come out of our paychecks, but enforced non-pollution is just that – enforced.

Via nano-technology and widespread RFID use, all pretense of privacy will leave our imaginations, and we become a highly managed species to find, punish, eavesdrop upon, and watch (Sub-dermal chipping was tested on grazing animals, then dogs, and chipping centers are now open for business in Florida and being tested on senior citizens. Children will be next under the guise of security/anti-kidnapping technology, and then banking rights will require chipping).

As we become ill more frequently, living in such close and small quarters, we are given the medical care that the government deems appropriate, and NGO governing boards determine the definition of human quality of life. Remember that human life is to be reduced by 40-75% depending upon which U.N. conservation partners you listen to.

At least 50% of the North American continent is off limits to Homo Sapiens. Between the government and large land trusts, more than half of American land is already in their hands.

Species of large mammals are repopulated. Wolves and cougars, mountain lions and bears guard the wilderness areas to ensure that people keep away. All wilderness areas are now the private property of corporate government. Watch for fencing.

International conglomerations, which are partnered with international conservation/land trusts, and all partnered with the United Nations, are the holders and keepers of land stolen by complex business schemes. Those conglomerations and their partnerships, which “control” and “aid” and “create” the conservation strategy of all life on Earth and are the self-proclaimed custodians of all living ecosystems, are historically, and remain the largest polluters on Earth. Their leadership and their partners are all multi-millionaires and billionaires.

All children, following 10-12 years of indoctrination, are soldiers. All women are rated for limited reproductive rights and licenses will be issued for reproductive rights. The mentally or physically damaged are eliminated. All income is reduced to under 20K per year, and American suburbia is leveled and rebuilt into business and trade corridors.

The Mexican and Canadian borders are dissolved. Martial law is implemented to keep the peace and to put down all attempted uprisings. Troublemakers will be killed or removed from the general population and placed into determent camps, which are currently readied and staffed.

The sick, infirmed, and the children of troublemakers will become wards of the state. Some will be re-engineered and some will be put down.

Now, why would all this happen to the human population? Why would big business and the largest banks in the world ever conceive of such a plan? Why, to protect nature, of course! That is what the U.N. has declared – and the World Bank and the World Trade Organization and the American government. And if you believe that, I’ve got some swampland to sell you, located in a U.N. Biosphere Reserve, which is surrounded by a conservation easement, which is surrounded by a buffer zone (the politically correct term for de-militarized zone) in deed-restricted Florida, which is actually owned by the corporation of Florida, under the CEO Governor-General.

Just keep telling yourselves – we elected them – we elected them.

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Internationalizing America's Roads
Websites for Wisdoms:
www.restoringamerica.org
www.klamathbucketbrigade.org
www.federalobserver.com
www.newswithviews.com
www.acl.us.tt
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Greens Fuel Victorian Bush Fires

Victoria bushfires stoked by green vote

David Packham
February 10, 2009
The Australian

VICTORIA has suffered the most tragic bushfire disaster to have occurred on this continent throughout its period of human habitation.

The deaths, loss of homes and businesses and the blow to our feeling of security will take decades to fade into history. The trauma will live with the victims, who, to a greater or lesser extent, are all of us.

How could this happen when we have been told in a withering, continuous barrage of public relations that with technology and well-polished uniforms, we can cope with the unleashing of huge forces of nature.

I have been a bushfire scientist for more than 50 years, dealing with all aspects of bushfires, from prescribed burning to flame chemistry, and serving as supervisor of fire weather services for Australia. We need to understand what has happened so that we can accept or prevent future fire disasters.

That this disaster was about to happen became clear when the weather bureau issued an accurate fire weather forecast last Wednesday, which prompted me, as a private citizen, to raise the alarm through a memo distributed to concerned residents.

The science is simple. A fire disaster of this nature requires a combination of hot, dry, windy weather in drought conditions. It also requires a source of ignition. In the past, this purpose has been served by lightning. In this disaster, lightning has not played a big part, and for this Victorians should be grateful. But other sources of ignition are ever-present. When the temperature and wind increase to extreme levels, small events -- perhaps the scrape of metal across a rock, a transformer overheating or sparks from a diesel engine -- are capable of starting a fire that can in minutes become unstoppable if the fuel is present.

The third and only controllable factor in this deadly triangle is fuel: the dead leaves, pieces of bark and grass that become the gas that feeds the 50m high flames that roar through the bush with the sound of jet engines.

Fuels build up year after year at an approximate rate of one tonne a hectare a year, up to a maximum of about 30 tonnes a hectare.

If the fuels exceed about eight tonnes a hectare, disastrous fires can and will occur. Every objective analysis of the dynamics of fuel and fire concludes that unless the fuels are maintained at near the levels that our indigenous stewards of the land achieved, then we will have unhealthy and unsafe forests that from time to time will generate disasters such as the one that erupted on saturday.

It has been a difficult lesson for me to accept that despite the severe damage to our forests and even a fatal fire in our nation's capital, the political decision has been to do nothing that will change the extreme threat to which our forests and rural lands are exposed.

The decision to ignore the threat has been encouraged by some shocking pseudo-science from a few academics who use arguments that may have a place in political discourse but should have no place in managing our environment and protecting it and us from the bushfire threat.

The conclusion of these academics is that high intensity fires are good for the environment and that the resulting mudslides after rains are merely localised and serve to redistribute nutrients. The purpose of this failed policy is to secure uninformed city votes.

Only a few expert retired fire managers, experienced bushies and some courageous politicians are prepared to buck the decision to lock up our bush and leave it to burn.

The politicians who willingly accept this rubbish use it to justify the perpetuation of the greatest threat to our forests, water supplies, homes and lives in order to secure a minority green vote. They continue to throw millions (and no doubt soon billions) at ineffective suppression toys, while the few foresters and bush people who know how to manage our public lands are starved of the resources they need to reduce fuel loads.

It is hard for me to see this perversion of public policy and to accept that the folk of the bush have lost their battle to live a safe life in a cared-for rural and forest environment, all because of the environmental fantasies of outraged extremists and latte conservationists.

In a letter to my local paper, the Weekly Times, on January 25, I predicted we were facing a very critical situation in which 1000 to 2000 homes could be lost in the Yarra catchment, the Otways and/or the Strezleckies; that 100 souls could be lost in a most horrible and violent way; and that there was even a threat to Melbourne's water supply, which could be rendered unusable by the ash and debris. Horrifically, much of this has come to pass, and it is not yet the end of the bushfire season.

In the face of this inferno, the perpetrators of this obscenity should have the decency to stand up and say they were wrong.

Southeast Australia is the worst place in the world for bushfires, and we must not waste any time in getting down to the task of making our bush healthy and safe.

But don't hold your breath. Do you hear that lovely sound the warbling pigs make as they fly by?

David Packham OAM is an honorary senior research fellow at Monash University's school of geography and environmental science.

An unholy alliance between the Sociopathic Loons of the "environmental movement" and the Sociopathic Loons of the "Religion of Peace" ?
Two "Religions" dedicated to the annihaliation of the western world, Islam, and the International Socialist,rabble that make up the environmental industry, could it be, that, albeit, unknowingly for most of their respective dewy eyed members, these two groups are working as one, to facilitate terrorism ,the death of infidels and the destruction of public and private property and the resulting drain on Australia's wealth, under the guise of a natural disaster?
Australia's Green Loons / Peace Activists are known for their mantra of "....you first have to rock the boat in order to sink it" these descendants of the drug fucked 60's and 70's Hippies boast of the goal to return Australia, and indeed the world to the stone age, as do the followers of the Religion of Peace, Islam.
I am not suggesting there are meetings of Islamists and Greens conducted in Mosques and crystal healing nights around environmentally friendly scented candles,where they plot the down fall of civilization, however I suggest that the followers Satan, or the Godless can, and do have, what appears to be two totally unrelated malevolent groups, working towards a common goal, with both parties rank and file members (and everyone else) unaware they are working for the same Godless master, the Beast of International Socialism aka the United Nations.


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Australian Bush Fires:Memories of Canberra blaze rekindled

Memories of Canberra blaze rekindled

BY NYSSA SKILTON
Canberra Times
10/02/2009

Victoria's bushfires have stirred memories of Canberra's own bushfire disaster just six years ago, raising the question: What has been learnt?

Bushfire and meteorology specialist David Packham, of Monash University in Melbourne, said nothing had changed in forest management since the Canberra 2003 fires and Victoria was suffering the consequences. ''The mismanagement of the south-eastern forests of Australia over the last 30 or 40 years by excluding prescribed burning and fuel management has led to the highest fuel concentrations we have ever had in human occupation,'' Mr Packham said.

''The state has never been as dangerous as what it is now and this has been quite obvious for some time. ''It is a recipe for the disaster that we have had.'' Mr Packham, who is a research fellow at Monash University's School of Geography and Environmental Science, said a ''God almighty brawl'' was about to erupt in Australia about how forests should be managed to reduce the risk of bushfires.
''There has been a total lack of willingness to instigate a proper fuel reduction management program based on the skills and understanding of indigenous people who, after all, for tens of thousands of years were the stewards of our environment,'' he said. ''We have thumbed our noses at what these people did and knew and we just can't keep on doing it.''
The director of the centre for environmental risk management of bushfires at the University of Wollongong, Professor Ross Bradstock, said now was not the time to speculate on what went wrong. ''There needs to be more sober appraisal to figure out exactly what's happened,'' he said. ''We know these very big destructive fires have occurred before in Victoria under very different eras of management.'' Professor Bradstock said scientific knowledge of bushfires was quite rudimentary.

He said, like Canberra in January 2003, the conditions in Victoria on Saturday were off the top of the fire danger scale. ''We actually have no formal scientific knowledge of the way fires behave in the upper part of the fire danger scale, let along off the top of the danger scale,'' he said. ''Yes, we have scientists and people working on the problem, but these are extraordinary phenomena and we don't fully comprehend them.'' Professor Bradstock said there was no prescribed burning solution which would totally eliminate risk of bushfire. ''Anything we do in terms fire management is about the reduction in risk,'' he said.

''Understanding the best use of resources to reduce risk is still a formidable challenge. We don't have all the answers.'' CSIRO bushfire researcher Andrew Sullivan said aerial shots of Marysville, depicting green street trees dotted among destroyed houses, reminded him of what he had seen in Canberra in 2003. ''It implies to me that what's happened is house-to-house spread after the fire front has gone through,'' he said. ''That's what happened in Canberra. Primarily the bushfire hit Eucumbene Drive and Warragamba Drive [Duffy] and spot fires started in the gardens of houses that lined those streets.'' Mr Sullivan said prior to Saturday, he would have said Australia was becoming better at dealing with bushfires.

Australian Fires: 400 fires hit Victoria over the weekend

Firebugs blamed for blazes: fire criminologist

Mark Dunn
Herald Sun
February 09, 2009 07:26pm

MORE than one arsonist would have been responsible for several of the blazes which erupted in Victoria over the weekend, a fire criminologist believes.
About half of all bush fires in Australia are deliberately lit by fire bugs, Australian National University research fellow Dr Damon Muller said.

Given up to 400 fires hit Victoria over the weekend at varying locations across the state, Dr Muller believes more than one arsonist was at work.

See Post Forest Fire Jihad Australia singled out for "Forest Jihad"

"Without putting a figure on it, it would be surprising if some of them were not deliberately lit, just by virtue of the significant number,'' Dr Muller said.

"And by virtue of the diversity of locations there is probably a number of perpetrators.''

Federal Attorney General Robert McClelland said Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's description of arsonists as "mass murderers'' in the circumstances was warranted and any offenders would be pursued with relevant murder charges.

"Anyone who lights fires deliberately, with reckless disregard for the safety of their fellow Australians, in our view establishes the requisite criminal intent that would sustain a charge of murder,'' Mr McClelland told parliament.

Police and CFA arson investigators are currently trying to identify the precise ignition points where fires at Churchill and several other locations began.

All fire areas where deaths have occurred have been designated by police as crime scenes - although only Churchill and the six houses lost at Narre Warren are suspected at this stage to have been deliberately lit.

The Kinglake and Marysville fires are assumed at this point to have been the result of natural disaster but the crime scene designation enables police to investigate whether arson was a factor.

Police Supt. Ross McNeil said it was important for forensic evidence to be preserved.

"We are calling them crime scenes so we can protect them to a high level,'' Supt McNeil said.

Arson detectives yesterday began their work to identify which fires may have been sparked - or re-lit by fire bugs.

In order to confirm a fire was deliberately lit, samples of burnt vegetation at the ignition points will be tested for the presence of any accelerant.

Investigators will also assess wind direction, speed of fire spread, any witness reports of suspicious activity in the area and weather reports tracking any lightning strikes in the vicinity.

Dr Muller said bushfire arsonists were typically male and likely to start fires on urban fringes.

Based on a study of previous prosecutions, Dr Muller said the typical arsonist had a history of low-level property and violence offences and generally came from a lower socio-economic status.

Arson in all its forms costs Australia $1.6 billion each year, Dr Muller found in a report released this month.

Australian Fires: Death Toll reaches 171

Victoria fires death toll leaps to 171

Herald Sun
February 10, 2009 01:47am

WHOLE towns have been declared crime scenes as the toll from Victoria's worst natural disaster leapt to 171.
But Premier John Brumby says the Victoria fires emergency will get worse before it gets any better.

"We've still got fires that are not contained," he said.

"There is a huge effort to get them under control.

"Tragically, we will have more deaths later this week."

There are fears the tragedy will have claimed more than 200 lives by the time police complete their searches of towns wiped out by the blazes.

The bushfire death toll has now reached 171 dead, a police spokeswoman confirmed about 1am this morning as police try to account for the people who perished in the fires.

Authorities say they are shocked by the sudden leap in numbers as more discoveries come to light, with early indications that the numbers leapt amid the discovery of clusters of bodies.

4Meter Crocodile kills 5 year old boy on Daintree.

Don't kill the crocodile who killed our son

By Thomas Chamberlin and Carenda Jenkin
The Daily Telegraph
February 10, 2009 12:00am

THIS is the crocodile suspected of killing a five-year-old boy. The 4m dominant male, known as Goldie or Yellowtail, is the prime suspect in a deadly croc attack that has shaken a tight-knit community on the Daintree north of Cairns.

Two other massive predators known as Scarface and Fat Albert have been ruled out as likely culprits after witnesses provided a detailed description of the killer.

Dad could not save his boy from croc

Jeremy Doble is missing feared dead after he was taken by a croc in front of his brother, Ryan, 7, whose terrified screams alerted their father who was working nearby. Daintree River tour guide Steve Doble threw himself into the croc-infested mangrove swamp in a brave attempt to save his son only to find he vanished without a trace.


Police said the father and son, who have lived on the river for five years and who have an intimate knowledge of the dominant aggressive male crocodiles in the river system, were able to identify the killer.

Yellowtail or Goldie is easily distinguished by its tell-tale bright yellow markings on its back and tail, and aggressive demeanour as the dominant territorial male near the attack site. Locals said they had seen the croc in recent weeks hiding in the mangroves away from the fast-flowing cold floodwaters.

The Doble family, who live on the river on a 12ha tourist property, were yesterday "too distressed" to speak publicly and were counselled by grief trauma experts. They have begged authorities not to kill or hurt the crocodile if it is trapped as part of a massive croc hunt.

"They do not want any harm to come to the croc and for it to be treated as humanely as possible," acting Inspector Jason Smith said. "They are very distressed, but have had some incredible support from the local community."
He said the description given by the boy's brother who witnessed the attack had "narrowed the likelihood down to one particular crocodile".

The two boys had been playing on a boogie board in a mangrove swamp behind their family home as their father Steve fixed a mangrove boardwalk nearby when tragedy struck about 9.15am on Sunday.

131 Dead so far ,Australia singled out for "forest Jihad"

Islam group urges forest fire jihad

Josh Gordon
The AGE
September 7, 2008

AUSTRALIA has been singled out as a target for "forest jihad" by a group of Islamic extremists urging Muslims to deliberately light bushfires as a weapon of terror.

US intelligence channels earlier this year identified a website calling on Muslims in Australia, the US, Europe and Russia to "start forest fires", claiming "scholars have justified chopping down and burning the infidels' forests when they do the same to our lands".

Missing

The website, posted by a group called the Al-Ikhlas Islamic Network, argues in Arabic that lighting fires is an effective form of terrorism justified in Islamic law under the "eye for an eye" doctrine.

Victims of Victorian Fires,Kangaroo and a Horse

The posting — which instructs jihadis to remember "forest jihad" in summer months — says fires cause economic damage and pollution, tie up security agencies and can take months to extinguish so that "this terror will haunt them for an extended period of time".

"Imagine if, after all the losses caused by such an event, a jihadist organisation were to claim responsibility for the forest fires," the website says. "You can hardly begin to imagine the level of fear that would take hold of people in the United States, in Europe, in Russia and in Australia."

With the nation heading into another hot, dry summer, Australian intelligence agencies are treating the possibility that bushfires could be used as a weapon of terrorism as a serious concern.

Two Kangaroo's who failed to outrun the Fire Storm

Attorney-General Robert McClelland said the Federal Government remained "vigilant against such threats", warning that anyone caught lighting a fire as a weapon of terror would feel the wrath of anti-terror laws.

"Any information that suggests a threat to Australia's interests is investigated by relevant agencies as appropriate," Mr McClelland said.

Adam Dolnik, director of research at the University of Wollongong's Centre for Transnational Crime Prevention, said that bushfires (unlike suicide bombing) were generally not considered a glorious type of attack by jihadis, in keeping with a recent decline in the sophistication of terrorist operations.

"With attacks like bushfires, yes, it would be easy. It would be very damaging and we do see a decreasing sophistication as a part of terrorist attacks," Dr Dolnik said.

"In recent years, there have been quite a few attacks averted and it has become more and more difficult for groups to do something effective."

Dr Dolnik said he had observed an increase in traffic on jihadi websites calling for a simplification of terrorist attacks because the more complex operations had been failing. But starting bush fires was still often regarded as less effective than other operations because governments could easily deny terrorism as the cause.

The internet posting by the little-known group claimed the idea of forest fires had been attributed to imprisoned Al Qaeda leader Abu Musab Al-Suri. It said Al-Suri had urged terrorists to use sulphuric acid and petrol to start forest fires.

If the AGE is giving up their favourite Multiculturalists and terrorists, I would think this story has legs, although I expect it will be buried well and truly, by the Victorian state Labor government's Islamic suppression of free speech and thought department, staffed by Labor's favourite Islamist's and socialist Islamists sympathisers and apologists.
Stay tuned.

Australian:Fires latest,Brian Naylor & Wife confirmed Dead

Australia: Victorian Fires 65 Dead Toll predicted to rise

U.S. intel alerted to threat of 'Forest Fire Jihad'

WorldTribune.com
Tuesday, January 15, 2008

U.S. officials monitoring terrorist web sites have discovered a call for using forest fires as weapons against “crusader” nations, in what may explain some recent wildfires in places like southern California and Greece.

The 2007 fires at Mount Parnitha, as seen from Athens.
A terrorist website was discovered recently that carried a posting that called for “Forest Jihad.” The posting was listed on the Internet on Nov. 26 and reported in U.S. intelligence channels last week.

The statement, in Arabic, said that “summer has begun so do not forget the Forest Jihad.”

The writer called on all Muslims in the United States, Europe, Russia and Australia to “start forest fires.”

The posting quoted imprisoned Al Qaida terrorist Abu Musab Al-Suri, as saying “Jihad is an art just like poetry, music, and the fine arts. There are people that draw and there are others that are jihadists. They both act upon inspiration.”

Al-Suri is a senior Al Qaida leader captured in Pakistan in 2005 who is believed to be in U.S. custody.

“The idea of forest fires is attributed to him, may God set him free, as is in this short clip,” the writer stated.

The posting said that setting forest fires were legal under extremist Islamic law as part of a “eye for an eye” and that can produce “amazing results.”

Wildfires in California burned more than 500,000 acres beginning in October and authorities said arson was to blame for some of the fires. In August, wildfires broke out in Greece that authorities say were deliberately set.

The writer stated that it was permissible to burn trees in carrying out jihad.

“Scholars have justified chopping down and burning the infidels' forests when they do the same to our lands,” the writer said.

The writer stated that “targeted forests” are in the nations that “are at war with Muslims,” including the United States, Europe, Russia, and Australia.

Other nations, including Brazil are “off limits” because Brazil has not joined the “armies of the crusade.”

On damage caused by wildfires, the report said that the fires typically take months to put out which means that “this terror will haunt them for an extended period of time.”

The fires also will cause economic damage because it will limit exports of timber used to make furniture and also will cause losses to pharmaceutical companies that use trees for ingredients for drugs, the posting said.

Smoke caused by the fires will create pollution and military forces could be tied up fighting fires. The report noted that U.S. military forces in Iraq or Afghanistan “could even be recalled” as occurred following hurricane Katrina, which did not occur.

“Imagine if, after all the losses caused by such an event, a jihadist organization were to claim responsibility for (starting) the forest fires,” the writer said. “You can hardly begin to imagine the level of the fear that would take hold of people in the United States, in Europe, in Russia, and in Australia.”

The report said that Abu Musab Al-Suri, urges terrorists to use sulphuric acid to start a forest fire, as well as gasoline.

The article was signed by Abu Thar Al-Kuwaiti, on behalf of a group called the Al-Ikhlas Islamic Network.

Australia: Fires latest, Brian Naylor & Wife confirmed Dead

84 dead, 750 homes lost in fire horror

Channel Nine veteran Brian Naylor confirmed dead

CHANNEL Nine veteran Brian Naylor and his wife Moiree have been confirmed dead in the fires at Kinglake West, Sky News reports.