Congratulations to the US Navy Seals on the success of their mission.
Once again we see those most despised by the left,the US Military,laying their lives on the line to deal with the consequences and manifestations of the ideology and foreign policy of the left, they must be devastated at the loss of their much romanticised Muslim "Pirates"
No doubt after Hussein Obama has finished basking in the success, of what the media is spinning into a stroke of his own unique personal brilliance and cunning military savvy on his part by saving Captain Phillips from been yet another statistic on the ever growing list of Americans assassinated by members of the "Religion of Peace", there will be the obligatory "full and open " inquiry, aka a Democrat led star chamber to see if there is any possibility to lay charges against the Navy Seals involved in the rescue for anything from first degree murder,impolite and or,god forbid,they were ARROGANT, did not remove their shoes before entering the life boat,to been in violation of US Navy dress code as they carried out their deadly mission.
How long before we see "Che" style tee shirts,romanticising the Lefts Dead Muslim Pirates at the next ACORN,Move On,Not in Our Name or Code Pink hate fest ? naturally all proceeds going to the grieving widows and orphaned children of their much loved Dead Muslim Pirates / Freedom Fighters.
Aussie, 13 4 09
Hussein Obama exposed here at Atlas Shrugs President Hussein did not give the order
A blog revealing the horrors of Islam,International Socialism,the misery these two evils are inflicting upon the free the world,and those it has already enslaved,along with various articles revealing the attacks from within upon the western Judeo Christian ethic by those we entrusted to preserve it. Videos and Pictures of many varied subjects from around the world, along with some jokes of mine and any funny ones you want to send me.
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Warning to all Muslims the world over seeking asylum and protection from the manifestations of their faith.
Do not under any circumstances come to Australia, for we are a Nation founded upon Judeo Christian Law and principles and as such Australia is an anathema to any follower of the Paedophile Slave Trader Mohammad's cult of Islam.
There is no ideology more hated and despised in Australia than Islam.You simply would not like it here.
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Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
Voltaire French author, humanist, rationalist, & satirist (1694 - 1778)
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Those who demand you believe that Islam is a Religion of Peace also demand you believe in Anthropogenic Global Warming.
Aussie News & Views Jan 1 2009
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"But Communism is the god of discontent, and needs no blessing. All it needs is a heart willing to hate, willing to call envy “justice."
Equality then means the violent destruction of all social and cultural distinctions. Freedom means absolute dictatorship over the people."
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“ If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival.
“There may be even a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than live as slaves”
Winston Churchill. Pg.310 “The Hell Makers” John C. Grover ISBN # 0 7316 1918 8
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This matters above everything.
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'a socialist is communist without the courage of conviction to say what he really is'.
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Hontar: We must work in the world, your eminence. The world is thus.
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Voltaire said: “If you want to know who rules over you, just find out who you are not permitted to criticize.”
--------Check this out, what an Bum WOW!!!!
When those sworn to destroy you,Communism, Socialism,"Change you can Believe in" via their rabid salivating Mongrel Dog,Islam,take away your humanity, your God given Sanctity of Life, Created in His Image , If you are lucky this prayer is maybe all you have left, If you believe in God and his Son,Jesus Christ, then you are, despite the evils that may befall you are better off than most.
Lord, I come before You with a heavy heart. I feel so much and yet sometimes I feel nothing at all. I don't know where to turn, who to talk to, or how to deal with the things going on in my life. You see everything, Lord. You know everything, Lord. Yet when I seek you it is so hard to feel You here with me. Lord, help me through this. I don't see any other way to get out of this. There is no light at the end of my tunnel, yet everyone says You can show it to me. Lord, help me find that light. Let it be Your light. Give me someone to help. Let me feel You with me. Lord, let me see what You provide and see an alternative to taking my life. Let me feel Your blessings and comfort. Amen.
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"The chief weapon in the quiver of all Islamist expansionist movements, is the absolute necessity to keep victims largely unaware of the actual theology plotting their demise. To complete this deception, a large body of ‘moderates’ continue to spew such ridiculous claims as “Islam means Peace” thereby keeping non-Muslims from actually reading the Qur’an, the Sira, the Hadith, or actually looking into the past 1400 years of history. Islamists also deny or dismiss the concept of ‘abrogation’, which is the universal intra-Islamic method of replacing slightly more tolerable aspects of the religion in favor of more violent demands for Muslims to slay and subdue infidels"
*DO NOT CLICK ON ANY SENDVID VIDEOS *
Monday, April 13, 2009
Sadui Arabia: Eight-year-old girl's arranged marriage is legal
Eight-year-old girl's arranged marriage is legal
The Daily Telegraph
April 13, 2009 02:45pm
A JUDGE has refused to overturn his ruling declaring the arranged marriage of an eight-year-old girl to a 47-year-old man legal - despite her mum's appeal.
Saudi Arabian judge Sheikh Habib Habib insists the girl's marriage to her father's friend is binding, although she can file for divorce when she reaches puberty.
But what if this little 8 year old girl wanted to remain a virgin until such time as she chose to marry a real man in a real marriage?
This piece of Islamist Paedophile Crap is simply following in the footsteps of the founder of Islam, Mohammed, with his vile filthy custom of interferring with young children.
Hussein Obama now demands we must RESPECT this quirkey little trait in Islamic culture.
The mother's attorney Abdullah Jutaili said the girl's father arranged the marriage with his "close friend" to pay off a monetary debt.
A relative said the girl's mother, who is divorced from the father, will continue to seek to overturn the marriage.
And Hussein Obama BOW's and apologises to this, look out America.
The Daily Telegraph
April 13, 2009 02:45pm
A JUDGE has refused to overturn his ruling declaring the arranged marriage of an eight-year-old girl to a 47-year-old man legal - despite her mum's appeal.
Saudi Arabian judge Sheikh Habib Habib insists the girl's marriage to her father's friend is binding, although she can file for divorce when she reaches puberty.
But what if this little 8 year old girl wanted to remain a virgin until such time as she chose to marry a real man in a real marriage?
This piece of Islamist Paedophile Crap is simply following in the footsteps of the founder of Islam, Mohammed, with his vile filthy custom of interferring with young children.
Hussein Obama now demands we must RESPECT this quirkey little trait in Islamic culture.
The mother's attorney Abdullah Jutaili said the girl's father arranged the marriage with his "close friend" to pay off a monetary debt.
A relative said the girl's mother, who is divorced from the father, will continue to seek to overturn the marriage.
And Hussein Obama BOW's and apologises to this, look out America.
Friday, April 10, 2009
Thursday, April 09, 2009
Sydney Australia: Crucifixes, Bibles banned from Hospital Chapel " to avoid offending Muslims, Hindus or other non-Christian believers"
The chapel without a crucifix
by Paul Tatnell
MosmanDaily
08 Apr 09
THE home of God at Royal North Shore hospital has fallen victim to a higher power - the State Government bureaucracy.
The Mosman Daily has learnt that crucifixes, Bibles and all other Christian symbols are banned inside the hospital’s chapel when it is not being used for a church service.
The move, ordered by senior staff, is to avoid offending Muslims, Hindus or other non-Christian believers who may want to pray in the chapel.
Hospital staff say that while the chapel was built for Christians, they now want the chapel to be completely non-denominational. An inspection of the chapel last week by the Daily found no trace of a crucifix or any other religious symbol inside the chapel.
The Daily has been told that church leaders must bring their own symbols to use in a service.
The chapel building also contains a separate Muslim prayer room.
Mosman Mayor Dom Lopez, a devout Catholic, said he was “outraged” to discover the rule when he was recently undergoing treatment at the hospital for bowel cancer. “When I was first told it I didn’t believe it,” Cr Lopez said.
“When I was recovering, the Catholic priest came to see me and said, ‘It is true all the crosses are gone, somebody said we have to be a non-denomination church’.
“That’s just not right, it was built as a Christian chapel, now they (church leaders) have all to take all those things with them.”
North Shore Liberal MP and Opposition health spokeswoman Jillian Skinner said the decision was “bureaucratic madness”.
“It’s crazy, absolutely crazy,” she said.
“I bet there was no pressure from the Muslim community, the Jews or anyone - it’s just silly bureaucrats.”
Mrs Skinner said visitors to the chapel needed all the strength they could get and that symbols of God would provide that.
“I actually think it’s offensive to all faiths (and) it is silly bureaucratic rules,” she said.
Cr Lopez agreed.
“They have completely disenfranchised a Christian chapel,” he said.
“Being a Christian, I find a lot of power in prayer and I think a lot of people do whether they are Muslim, Jewish or whatever.”
A hospital spokeswoman said the rule change came after “the chapel was enhanced with the provision of a Muslim prayer space in the loft area”.
“At that time the decision was made to display the symbols of each faith, for example the chapel’s cross and Bible, during specific services and ceremonies only,” she said.
“These important religious symbols are appropriately stored and used regularly. This decision was made out of respect for the many faiths that make up both the hospital and also the modern Australian community.”
Hussein Obama's Congressional Black Caucus: U.S. Lawmakers Meet With Castros, Push for New Policy on Cuba.
Seven lawmakers traveled to Cuba this week to encourage greater dialogue between the U.S. and the communist nation.
By Chad Pergram
FOXNews.com
Tuesday, April 07, 2009
WASHINGTON -- Former Cuban President Fidel Castro was "very engaging, very energetic," U.S. Rep. Barbara Lee, a California Democrat, said following a congressional delegation's meeting with the ailing revolutionary.
The delegation that traveled to Cuba featured six members of the Congressional Black Caucus and Rep. Mike Honda, D-Calif., and they returned to Washington late Tuesday afternoon and urged the United States government to begin steps to alter its relationship with Cuba.
"For the past 50 years, the United States has been swimming in the Caribbean Sea of delusion," said Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, D-Mo., who described the United States as "the isolated nation" compared to European countries which have diplomatic ties with Havana.
"This is the dawning of a new day," Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Ill., declared. "Fifty years of foolishness is over. It's time for the children to sit in the corner and the adults to take over."
Rush was one of three members of the delegation to meet with Fidel Castro. A meeting with his brother, Cuban leader Raul Castro, took place Monday.
Tuesday afternoon, the Cuban government released a statement that it indicated was Fidel Castro's assessment of a session he had with the lawmakers. In the statement, Castro said that one of the Members of Congress told him that the United States should "apologize" to Cuba. And another lawmaker told the former leader that despite the victory by President Obama, U.S. society is still "racist."
All members of the delegation denied that those two exchanges took place during their time with Fidel Castro.
The lawmakers encouraged the U.S. to launch a dialogue with Cuba and relieve trade and modify a 47-year-old American trade embargo against the island nation.
"You can't not talk to people and expect to get a desirable result," said Rep. Mel Watt, D-N.C., who added that the embargo "was not effective."
Rep. Laura Richardson, D-Calif., was one of three lawmakers who requested and met with Fidel Castro. She described him as alert and said the former Cuban dictator "looked directly into our eyes, quite aware of what was happening. He said to us, 'how can we help President Obama?'"
Rush indicated that it was time for Washington to remove Cuba from the list of terrorist nations. Rush dismissed Cuba as a security threat to the United States. He said that when he was a member of the Black Panthers in the 1960s, former FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover warned that his organization as "the number one threat to national security.
"So I know foolhardy approaches and asinine labels when I see them, " said Rush. "American people need to be told the truth and they have been lied to for too long about the threat from Cuba."
Both Rep. Rush, an ordained Baptist minister, and Rep. Cleaver, a Methodist pastor, delivered sermons at churches while in Cuba.
The CBC members conceded there were limited discussions about human rights abuses in Cuba.
"We didn't talk about it much," said Rep. Marcia Fudge, D-Ohio. "You don't go into someone's house and insult them."
But Congressional Black Caucus Chairwoman Barbara Lee, D-Calif., who led the delegation said that Raul Castro indicated to her that "everything's on the table."
"Two sovereign nations should be able to sit down and talk about their differences, " Lee said.
The U.S. Air Force flew the Congressional Black Caucus delegation directly to Havana and not the American military base at Guantanamo Bay. The Air Force then gave each lawmaker a pin featuring adjoining American and Cuban flags to help identify them as members of the delegation.
FOX News' Mosheh Oinounou contributed to this report.
Hussein Obama's agents doing the bidding of the United Nations ? or just pig ignorant pampered pooches of the Liberal elite and the US Democrats? either way there is no excuse for their trechary, so what do you do about ?
By Chad Pergram
FOXNews.com
Tuesday, April 07, 2009
WASHINGTON -- Former Cuban President Fidel Castro was "very engaging, very energetic," U.S. Rep. Barbara Lee, a California Democrat, said following a congressional delegation's meeting with the ailing revolutionary.
The delegation that traveled to Cuba featured six members of the Congressional Black Caucus and Rep. Mike Honda, D-Calif., and they returned to Washington late Tuesday afternoon and urged the United States government to begin steps to alter its relationship with Cuba.
"For the past 50 years, the United States has been swimming in the Caribbean Sea of delusion," said Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, D-Mo., who described the United States as "the isolated nation" compared to European countries which have diplomatic ties with Havana.
"This is the dawning of a new day," Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Ill., declared. "Fifty years of foolishness is over. It's time for the children to sit in the corner and the adults to take over."
Rush was one of three members of the delegation to meet with Fidel Castro. A meeting with his brother, Cuban leader Raul Castro, took place Monday.
Tuesday afternoon, the Cuban government released a statement that it indicated was Fidel Castro's assessment of a session he had with the lawmakers. In the statement, Castro said that one of the Members of Congress told him that the United States should "apologize" to Cuba. And another lawmaker told the former leader that despite the victory by President Obama, U.S. society is still "racist."
All members of the delegation denied that those two exchanges took place during their time with Fidel Castro.
The lawmakers encouraged the U.S. to launch a dialogue with Cuba and relieve trade and modify a 47-year-old American trade embargo against the island nation.
"You can't not talk to people and expect to get a desirable result," said Rep. Mel Watt, D-N.C., who added that the embargo "was not effective."
Rep. Laura Richardson, D-Calif., was one of three lawmakers who requested and met with Fidel Castro. She described him as alert and said the former Cuban dictator "looked directly into our eyes, quite aware of what was happening. He said to us, 'how can we help President Obama?'"
Rush indicated that it was time for Washington to remove Cuba from the list of terrorist nations. Rush dismissed Cuba as a security threat to the United States. He said that when he was a member of the Black Panthers in the 1960s, former FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover warned that his organization as "the number one threat to national security.
"So I know foolhardy approaches and asinine labels when I see them, " said Rush. "American people need to be told the truth and they have been lied to for too long about the threat from Cuba."
Both Rep. Rush, an ordained Baptist minister, and Rep. Cleaver, a Methodist pastor, delivered sermons at churches while in Cuba.
The CBC members conceded there were limited discussions about human rights abuses in Cuba.
"We didn't talk about it much," said Rep. Marcia Fudge, D-Ohio. "You don't go into someone's house and insult them."
But Congressional Black Caucus Chairwoman Barbara Lee, D-Calif., who led the delegation said that Raul Castro indicated to her that "everything's on the table."
"Two sovereign nations should be able to sit down and talk about their differences, " Lee said.
The U.S. Air Force flew the Congressional Black Caucus delegation directly to Havana and not the American military base at Guantanamo Bay. The Air Force then gave each lawmaker a pin featuring adjoining American and Cuban flags to help identify them as members of the delegation.
FOX News' Mosheh Oinounou contributed to this report.
Hussein Obama's agents doing the bidding of the United Nations ? or just pig ignorant pampered pooches of the Liberal elite and the US Democrats? either way there is no excuse for their trechary, so what do you do about ?
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Wednesday, April 08, 2009
Barack Hussein Obama :Assassination plot thwarted in Turkey
Barack Hussein Obama,
Community Organizer and Islamic Terrorism apologist in Chief,
Emporer of all Eurabia and its colonies and dominions,
America hater and Islamic appeaser in Chief,official ring kisser and brown noser,by Royal appointment,to the King of Saudi Arabia,
"Lower,Lower,nearly there Hussein,that's it,you can go back to your seat now"
See him shit his pants here,hey,Hussein,why so jumpy in the home of
"Moderate Islam" I thought you "reached out" what are you worried about?
It's different when it's YOUR arse on the line ay Hussein.
I thought all he had to worry about was does damn white folke's with dose blue eyes of da Devil, ohh save me Lord, oops sorry,allah, tell me it ain't so,that a brother can be at risk in a land of "Moderate Islam" Thank God,oops sorry allah, no one threw a shoe at him,the "Hope" would still be running, you would have to send out a search party to find him.
Community Organizer and Islamic Terrorism apologist in Chief,
Emporer of all Eurabia and its colonies and dominions,
America hater and Islamic appeaser in Chief,official ring kisser and brown noser,by Royal appointment,to the King of Saudi Arabia,
"Lower,Lower,nearly there Hussein,that's it,you can go back to your seat now"
See him shit his pants here,hey,Hussein,why so jumpy in the home of
"Moderate Islam" I thought you "reached out" what are you worried about?
It's different when it's YOUR arse on the line ay Hussein.
I thought all he had to worry about was does damn white folke's with dose blue eyes of da Devil, ohh save me Lord, oops sorry,allah, tell me it ain't so,that a brother can be at risk in a land of "Moderate Islam" Thank God,oops sorry allah, no one threw a shoe at him,the "Hope" would still be running, you would have to send out a search party to find him.
Stop Press!!!! Barack Hussein Obama has landed in Iraq, to try and get some "military cred" off the back of former American President,George W Bush and his relentless support of the US and coalition troops with the "surge" that Barack Hussein Obama decried and derided and slammed and voted against,along with his fellow Democrat Party appeasers and traitors.
Thanks to President Bushe's much despised and derided SURGE,Barack Hussein Obama has arrived SAFELY at Camp Victory, however he refused to alight Air Force One until the name was changed from Camp Victory to " Camp of the White skinned blue eyed Infidel Devil Dogs who are to arrogant to understand Europe and Islam and all the really cool things I stand for"
Fuck you Hussein.
The latest from FoxNews via Pam at AtlasShrugs is that the report of an assassination plot is in fact a HOAX,Turkish Police released a man without charge.
Wednesday, March 25, 2009
Remember when,Great Moments in History , Satans Jins , Goblins and Demons claim the rotting corpse of the Ayatollah Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini
Great Moments in History, a very "spiritual moment" indeed,
that proves there IS a God.
See Satan"s underlings claim the rotting decaying corpse of one of his spawn,Pious Islams, Iranian chapter leader,the one and only Ayatollah Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini.
Dead as a maggot and torn apart by his adoring "Pious Muslim" fans.
It's the Koran Stupid!!!!!!
Garbage IN Garbage OUT
Article below recounts the "touching" ? Satanic scene, as one of Satan's most infamous helpers is claimed by Satan's underlings and is returned to the sewers of Hell.
that proves there IS a God.
See Satan"s underlings claim the rotting decaying corpse of one of his spawn,Pious Islams, Iranian chapter leader,the one and only Ayatollah Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini.
Dead as a maggot and torn apart by his adoring "Pious Muslim" fans.
It's the Koran Stupid!!!!!!
Garbage IN Garbage OUT
Article below recounts the "touching" ? Satanic scene, as one of Satan's most infamous helpers is claimed by Satan's underlings and is returned to the sewers of Hell.
Daniel Pipes
The death of Ayatollah Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini on June 4 was mourned by millions of his followers with an extravagance that surprised even the Iranian authorities. Time and again, funeral plans were disrupted by gigantic mobs unwilling to give way either to schedules or politicians.
The scene in Tehran was one of unrelieved chaos. In the traditional Shi`i manner, men pounded their chests and flagellated themselves with chains. Some sacrificed sheep and some shouted, "We wish we were dead, so not to see our beloved imam dead." Others ran 25 miles to the cemetery. The grave dug for Khomeini's body was occupied by mourners who refused to leave. The authorities appealed to citizens to stay away from Khomeini's house and from the cemetery, but to no avail.
Fire trucks sprayed water on mourners in an effort to keep them from fainting in the intensity of the June heat and the press of humanity. According to official sources, 10,879 people were injured and received on-the-spot medical attention, 438 were taken to hospitals, and eight died in the crush to view Khomeini's body. In the cemetery, mourners climbed on buses the better to catch a glimpse of the body, and in one case the roof of a bus collapsed, injuring those sitting inside. `Ali Khamene'i, the president of the republic, could not even reach the special stand set up for dignitaries. The special stand for state officials and foreign dignitaries almost collapsed under pressure of the crowd.
The height of frenzy occurred at the gravesite itself. Bringing the body by land vehicle was out of the question, so it arrived by helicopter. The first time the helicopter landed, the crowd swarmed in and grabbed pieces of the shroud, causing the corpse actually to fall to the ground. After fifteen frantic minutes, the coffin was put back on the helicopter, which then bore the body away. In an attempt to thin out the crowd, it was announced that the funeral had been postponed by a day. The trick worked, as many went home. Then, six hours after the first attempt, a second effort at a helicopter landing was made. This time more guards were around and the body was placed in a metal casket. Still, it was not easy. As the Iranian news agency described it: "The grave was only ten meters away but the pushing and shoving of thousands made it seem like kilometers. It took ten terrible minutes to be able to put the casket down near the grave." Once the body had finally been buried, concrete blocks were placed on top of it.
What a fitting ending for one of "Islams finest"
The death of Ayatollah Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini on June 4 was mourned by millions of his followers with an extravagance that surprised even the Iranian authorities. Time and again, funeral plans were disrupted by gigantic mobs unwilling to give way either to schedules or politicians.
The scene in Tehran was one of unrelieved chaos. In the traditional Shi`i manner, men pounded their chests and flagellated themselves with chains. Some sacrificed sheep and some shouted, "We wish we were dead, so not to see our beloved imam dead." Others ran 25 miles to the cemetery. The grave dug for Khomeini's body was occupied by mourners who refused to leave. The authorities appealed to citizens to stay away from Khomeini's house and from the cemetery, but to no avail.
Fire trucks sprayed water on mourners in an effort to keep them from fainting in the intensity of the June heat and the press of humanity. According to official sources, 10,879 people were injured and received on-the-spot medical attention, 438 were taken to hospitals, and eight died in the crush to view Khomeini's body. In the cemetery, mourners climbed on buses the better to catch a glimpse of the body, and in one case the roof of a bus collapsed, injuring those sitting inside. `Ali Khamene'i, the president of the republic, could not even reach the special stand set up for dignitaries. The special stand for state officials and foreign dignitaries almost collapsed under pressure of the crowd.
The height of frenzy occurred at the gravesite itself. Bringing the body by land vehicle was out of the question, so it arrived by helicopter. The first time the helicopter landed, the crowd swarmed in and grabbed pieces of the shroud, causing the corpse actually to fall to the ground. After fifteen frantic minutes, the coffin was put back on the helicopter, which then bore the body away. In an attempt to thin out the crowd, it was announced that the funeral had been postponed by a day. The trick worked, as many went home. Then, six hours after the first attempt, a second effort at a helicopter landing was made. This time more guards were around and the body was placed in a metal casket. Still, it was not easy. As the Iranian news agency described it: "The grave was only ten meters away but the pushing and shoving of thousands made it seem like kilometers. It took ten terrible minutes to be able to put the casket down near the grave." Once the body had finally been buried, concrete blocks were placed on top of it.
What a fitting ending for one of "Islams finest"
Islam IS what Islam DOES
Islamic Terrorism: Dirty Bomb or "man caused disaster" ?
Is a "Dirty Bomb" made and detonated by Islamic Terrorist the same as an Obama "man caused disaster" ?
If not, when will,Obama tell us,or admit who is responsible for
"man caused disasters" ?
If not, when will,Obama tell us,or admit who is responsible for
"man caused disasters" ?
Best we all keep our eyes open for "man caused disaster" facilitators then.
Tuesday, March 24, 2009
Rudd must come clean about China briefing before US visit
PM 'must reveal details' of China talks
By Sandra O'Malley
NineMsn.com.au
Tue Mar 24 2009
Nationals Senate leader Barnaby Joyce has called on Prime Minister Kevin Rudd to reveal details of a meeting with one of China's most senior officials.
On Saturday, the prime minister met Li Changchun at The Lodge in Canberra, at the start of a four-nation tour for the fifth most senior Chinese Communist Party official.
Why would Comrade Rudd ban Australian media, from covering his "briefing" (aka.taking instructions from) the fifth most important man in the Communist Party of China, Li Changchun, before Comrade Rudd set off to visit Comrade Obama?
While Mr Rudd's office released minimal information about the engagement, China's official CCTV news network had a more detailed report.
Mr Rudd's office was not immediately available for additional comment.
The visit comes as the Foreign Investment Review Board mulls state-owned Chinalco's $30 billion grab for a larger share of Anglo-Australian mining giant Rio Tinto.
Treasurer Wayne Swan will make the ultimate decision about whether the Chinalco bid is in Australia's national interest and if it will get the go-ahead.
The perceived lack of information about Mr Li's visit has aroused suspicion in some quarters of the Australian media and Senator Joyce has accused Mr Rudd of being downright sneaky.
"My concern is if Mr Rudd is doing side deals to ... secure (votes for his bid on) the UN Security Council," Senator Joyce told AAP.
"Here we have something so palpably of concern to the Australian electorate that is being swept under the carpet.
"I find it outrageous we have to find out from a Chinese source who is having lunch with our prime minister."
Australia is trying to secure enough votes for its 2013-14 bid for a temporary seat on the Security Council. It is taking on Luxembourg and Finland for the two available seats.
Senator Joyce said the easiest way for Mr Rudd to clear up speculation on whether he was lobbied about Chinalco was to disclose what was discussed at the lunch.
"Mr Rudd is being totally and utterly sneaky," he said.
"He is not being forthright and transparent in the way he is acting.
"Why are people concerned about this? It is because he would have been discussing handing sovereignty of our nation to another nation."
According to CCTV, Mr Li told Mr Rudd both countries should maintain high-level exchanges and he extended an invitation to the prime minister and other Australian leaders to visit China.
"(Mr Li) suggested the two countries expand economic cooperation on the basis of mutual benefits," the network reported.
"And Li also suggested that both countries maintain close consultation on major issues such as the financial crisis and climate change."
Mr Rudd, a Mandarin speaker, praised the stimulus measures that China had adopted to deal with the financial crisis, CCTV reported.
The Spin on the US visit
By Sandra O'Malley
NineMsn.com.au
Tue Mar 24 2009
Nationals Senate leader Barnaby Joyce has called on Prime Minister Kevin Rudd to reveal details of a meeting with one of China's most senior officials.
On Saturday, the prime minister met Li Changchun at The Lodge in Canberra, at the start of a four-nation tour for the fifth most senior Chinese Communist Party official.
Why would Comrade Rudd ban Australian media, from covering his "briefing" (aka.taking instructions from) the fifth most important man in the Communist Party of China, Li Changchun, before Comrade Rudd set off to visit Comrade Obama?
While Mr Rudd's office released minimal information about the engagement, China's official CCTV news network had a more detailed report.
Mr Rudd's office was not immediately available for additional comment.
The visit comes as the Foreign Investment Review Board mulls state-owned Chinalco's $30 billion grab for a larger share of Anglo-Australian mining giant Rio Tinto.
Treasurer Wayne Swan will make the ultimate decision about whether the Chinalco bid is in Australia's national interest and if it will get the go-ahead.
The perceived lack of information about Mr Li's visit has aroused suspicion in some quarters of the Australian media and Senator Joyce has accused Mr Rudd of being downright sneaky.
"My concern is if Mr Rudd is doing side deals to ... secure (votes for his bid on) the UN Security Council," Senator Joyce told AAP.
"Here we have something so palpably of concern to the Australian electorate that is being swept under the carpet.
"I find it outrageous we have to find out from a Chinese source who is having lunch with our prime minister."
Australia is trying to secure enough votes for its 2013-14 bid for a temporary seat on the Security Council. It is taking on Luxembourg and Finland for the two available seats.
Senator Joyce said the easiest way for Mr Rudd to clear up speculation on whether he was lobbied about Chinalco was to disclose what was discussed at the lunch.
"Mr Rudd is being totally and utterly sneaky," he said.
"He is not being forthright and transparent in the way he is acting.
"Why are people concerned about this? It is because he would have been discussing handing sovereignty of our nation to another nation."
According to CCTV, Mr Li told Mr Rudd both countries should maintain high-level exchanges and he extended an invitation to the prime minister and other Australian leaders to visit China.
"(Mr Li) suggested the two countries expand economic cooperation on the basis of mutual benefits," the network reported.
"And Li also suggested that both countries maintain close consultation on major issues such as the financial crisis and climate change."
Mr Rudd, a Mandarin speaker, praised the stimulus measures that China had adopted to deal with the financial crisis, CCTV reported.
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Sydney's Occupied Territories:Mahmoud Dib refused bail Video of court fracas
Bandidos Sergent-at-Arms Mahmoud Dib refused bail, supporter arrested for allegedly spitting at photographer
News.com.au
March 24, 2009 05:11pm
A SENIOR Bandidos bikie has been refused bail on weapons charges, with one of his supporters arrested outside a Sydney court for spitting on a photographer.
Bandidos Sergent-at-Arms Mahmoud Dib, 27, appeared briefly in Burwood Local Court today on six weapons-related charges.
He was arrested earlier in the day by detectives investigating a series of shootings in suburban Sydney allegedly involving outlaw bikie gangs.
Wearing a red hooded jumper and supported by a handful of associates, Mr Dib sat silently throughout his brief court appearance.
His lawyer Mohammed Masri did not apply for bail on his behalf, instead asking for the bail hearing to be adjourned until Friday.
Bail was formally refused by Magistrate Michael Dakin, who set down a bail hearing for Friday.
There were dramatic scenes outside the court after police swooped on an associate of Mr Dib for allegedly spitting on a Daily Telegraph news photographer.
Other associates of Mr Dib verbally abused reporters and cameramen as they left the area.
News.com.au
March 24, 2009 05:11pm
A SENIOR Bandidos bikie has been refused bail on weapons charges, with one of his supporters arrested outside a Sydney court for spitting on a photographer.
Bandidos Sergent-at-Arms Mahmoud Dib, 27, appeared briefly in Burwood Local Court today on six weapons-related charges.
He was arrested earlier in the day by detectives investigating a series of shootings in suburban Sydney allegedly involving outlaw bikie gangs.
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Wearing a red hooded jumper and supported by a handful of associates, Mr Dib sat silently throughout his brief court appearance.
His lawyer Mohammed Masri did not apply for bail on his behalf, instead asking for the bail hearing to be adjourned until Friday.
Bail was formally refused by Magistrate Michael Dakin, who set down a bail hearing for Friday.
There were dramatic scenes outside the court after police swooped on an associate of Mr Dib for allegedly spitting on a Daily Telegraph news photographer.
See " Trick Spitter " arrested.
Other associates of Mr Dib verbally abused reporters and cameramen as they left the area.
Sydney's Occupied Territories: Arms Mahmoud Dib arrested and charged on firearms charges
Senior Bandidos bikie arrested on firearms charges
News.com.au
March 24, 2009 03:13pm
A SENIOR Bandidos bikie gang member has been charged with seven firearms offences as police investigate a string of shootings in Sydney's southwest.
Bandidos Sergeant-at-Arms Mahmoud Dib, 27, was arrested about 10am (AEDT) today following a raid on his home on Park Rd in Auburn at 6am.
He has since been charged with six firearms offences, including possessing a firearm in a public place and possessing an unregistered firearm, after gang squad detectives found a loaded gun in a car owned by Mr Dib parked in a Guildford St last Monday.
Acting Superintendent Angelo Memmolo, from the Middle Eastern Organised Crime Squad, said a .45 calibre semi-automatic pistol, loaded with seven bullets, was found in the car.
Mr Dib wasn't in the car at the time, but was in the area, he said.
Acting Supt Memmolo said no drugs or weapons were found in the early morning raid on Mr Dib's home.
However, police have seized two Harley-Davidson motorcycles, which they believe may be stolen.
Mr Dib was refused bail to face Burwood Local Court later today.
NSW police are targeting Sydney's bikie gangs following a fatal brawl at Sydney airport on Sunday in which the 29-year-old brother of a senior Hells Angel was bludgeoned to death.
News.com.au
March 24, 2009 03:13pm
A SENIOR Bandidos bikie gang member has been charged with seven firearms offences as police investigate a string of shootings in Sydney's southwest.
Bandidos Sergeant-at-Arms Mahmoud Dib, 27, was arrested about 10am (AEDT) today following a raid on his home on Park Rd in Auburn at 6am.
He has since been charged with six firearms offences, including possessing a firearm in a public place and possessing an unregistered firearm, after gang squad detectives found a loaded gun in a car owned by Mr Dib parked in a Guildford St last Monday.
Acting Superintendent Angelo Memmolo, from the Middle Eastern Organised Crime Squad, said a .45 calibre semi-automatic pistol, loaded with seven bullets, was found in the car.
Mr Dib wasn't in the car at the time, but was in the area, he said.
Acting Supt Memmolo said no drugs or weapons were found in the early morning raid on Mr Dib's home.
However, police have seized two Harley-Davidson motorcycles, which they believe may be stolen.
Mr Dib was refused bail to face Burwood Local Court later today.
NSW police are targeting Sydney's bikie gangs following a fatal brawl at Sydney airport on Sunday in which the 29-year-old brother of a senior Hells Angel was bludgeoned to death.
Australia: Muslim refused employment in Christian school.
Muslim student teacher refused position at Christian college
by Kellie Cameron
WyndhamLeader
24 Mar 09 @ 12:40pm
A MUSLIM student teacher has labelled a Christian school in Wyndham discriminatory for refusing her a position based on her religion.
But Heathdale Christian College is standing by its decision, saying that as a faith-based school it expects its teachers, including student ones, to support its Christian perspective.
Mother-of-two Rachida Dahlal, 35, has complained to the Equal Opportunity Commission on the grounds of discrimination, prejudice and unequal employment opportunities.
The Hoppers Crossing college where she wanted to do placement said it would not have been in its, or Mrs Dahlal’s, best interests.
Mrs Dahlal said on-the-job training was a requirement of her one-year diploma course in secondary education at Victoria University, and that the college was on a list of schools provided by the university offering trainee positions.
She said she chose Heathdale because it was the closest to her home and her sons’ childcare centre and also one of few schools in Wyndham offering both her specialty subjects of mathematics and French.
“I am Muslim, wear a head scarf, and respect all fellow humans regardless of their beliefs, race, or cultural background,” she said.
Mrs Dahlal said that as a result of the knock-back in February, she had started placement late at The Grange P-12 College in Hoppers Crossing, which did not offer French. She is observing Italian classes, but does not understand the language.
Heathdale principal Reynald Tibben said the Christian school was not the best option for Mrs Dahlal.
“It was not in her interest to expect her to operate in a culture that was different to her own religious standards,” he said. “To expect her to support the Christian ethos and practice of the college would have been unreasonable, just as it would be for me to operate as a teacher in a Muslim school.”
Victoria University acting vice-chancellor Prof John McCallum said it told Mrs Dahlal that the college had a policy of accepting only student teachers whose values were “consistent” with ths school’s.
“Armed with this information, the student decided to proceed to interview with the school,” he said.
Prof McCallum added: “In many instances Muslim students have been successfully placed in Christian schools.”
Mrs Dahlal said she was not told of any policy, only that she would not be able to speak about religion while on placement.
Mr Tibben said the college had offered to let Mrs Dahlal see its French curriculum.
The Equal Opportunity Commission said it could not comment on individual cases because its complaints process was confidential.
At last some backbone been shown, now lets see the Labor State Government Islam friendly Socialist's try and crush this school with their taxpayer funded Islamic Star Chamber.see
Salt Shakers
Australia: Discrimination AGAINST white Males to be legalised
Islam can only exist as a DISRUPTIVE Minority or
as an OPPRESSIVE Majority
as an OPPRESSIVE Majority
Sydneys Occupied Territories: "Taliban of Lakemba" make move on LMA
Breakaway Muslims vote to dismiss executive
Angus Hohenboken, Natalie O'Brien
The Australian
March 24, 2009
A FAULTLINE through the most powerful Muslim organisation in the country deepened last night as a breakaway faction of the Lebanese Muslim Association voted to sack its executive.
The meeting of young MLA members, labelled the "Taliban of Lakemba" by controversial Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali, was held outside Bankstown Town Hall in west Sydney after the group was reportedly shut out of the venue due to security concerns.
The 54 association members at the meeting voted unanimously in favour of motions of no confidence in the board's six executive office-holders.
"All we are asking is for a fair vote in April," Bilal Alameddine said. "From today there will basically be two boards directing what goes on in the (Lakemba) Mosque: nine on our side and six on their side."
Members said that, while the no confidence motions named the board's six office-holders, no one was singled out -- rather it was a vote of no confidence in the executive amid concerns the vote for the new board at the annual general meeting next month would be rigged.
The power struggle is mainly between the younger generation and the old guard, with tensions escalating in recent years.
LMA president Shawky Kassir said the executive would not accept the vote, as the executive was accepted by the majority of the organisation's 400 members.
"There is only one legitimate board," Mr Kassir said. "Irrelevant of its outcome, the meeting was not legal.
"They go and meet wherever they want and whenever they want -- any decision outside the proper procedure of the LMA constitutional law will not be accepted by the members and everybody around the mosque."
One senior Muslim said the younger group were "crazy and will stop at nothing".
The LMA board had previously sent a letter to the members attempting to cancel the meeting, and failed in an attempt to get an injunction in the Supreme Court to stop the meeting going ahead.
Mr Alameddine, who strenuously denied claims the group had Taliban ideology, said the cancelled venue booking was another example of the "political games" being played by the board. "The council asked the police for a risk assessment over the meeting and the police said there was no risk, but the council still cancelled the meeting because of security concerns," he said. "We are not radicals."
Bankstown City Council could not be contacted at the time of going to publication.
Trouble was expected at the Lakemba Mosque last Friday after confrontations last week between supporters of Sheik Hilali and his rivals, but a guest imam from Lebanon gave the sermon instead of Sheik Hilali.
Several scuffles have broken out during prayer times after the Nine Network's A Current Affair played security video footage of Sheik Hilali kicking in a door in his own mosque before calling in the police to report an act of vandalism.
The Muslim youths believe Sheik Hilali staged the vandalism to frame them and gain public support.
Sheik Hilali has denied the allegations and says there is more CCTV footage that proves there was a break-in.
See video post March 18 09
Sydney's Occupied Territories: Sheik Taj Din Al Hilaly, trashes Mosque then calls Police to find culprit.
Angus Hohenboken, Natalie O'Brien
The Australian
March 24, 2009
A FAULTLINE through the most powerful Muslim organisation in the country deepened last night as a breakaway faction of the Lebanese Muslim Association voted to sack its executive.
The meeting of young MLA members, labelled the "Taliban of Lakemba" by controversial Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali, was held outside Bankstown Town Hall in west Sydney after the group was reportedly shut out of the venue due to security concerns.
The 54 association members at the meeting voted unanimously in favour of motions of no confidence in the board's six executive office-holders.
"All we are asking is for a fair vote in April," Bilal Alameddine said. "From today there will basically be two boards directing what goes on in the (Lakemba) Mosque: nine on our side and six on their side."
Members said that, while the no confidence motions named the board's six office-holders, no one was singled out -- rather it was a vote of no confidence in the executive amid concerns the vote for the new board at the annual general meeting next month would be rigged.
The power struggle is mainly between the younger generation and the old guard, with tensions escalating in recent years.
LMA president Shawky Kassir said the executive would not accept the vote, as the executive was accepted by the majority of the organisation's 400 members.
"There is only one legitimate board," Mr Kassir said. "Irrelevant of its outcome, the meeting was not legal.
"They go and meet wherever they want and whenever they want -- any decision outside the proper procedure of the LMA constitutional law will not be accepted by the members and everybody around the mosque."
One senior Muslim said the younger group were "crazy and will stop at nothing".
The LMA board had previously sent a letter to the members attempting to cancel the meeting, and failed in an attempt to get an injunction in the Supreme Court to stop the meeting going ahead.
Mr Alameddine, who strenuously denied claims the group had Taliban ideology, said the cancelled venue booking was another example of the "political games" being played by the board. "The council asked the police for a risk assessment over the meeting and the police said there was no risk, but the council still cancelled the meeting because of security concerns," he said. "We are not radicals."
Bankstown City Council could not be contacted at the time of going to publication.
Trouble was expected at the Lakemba Mosque last Friday after confrontations last week between supporters of Sheik Hilali and his rivals, but a guest imam from Lebanon gave the sermon instead of Sheik Hilali.
Several scuffles have broken out during prayer times after the Nine Network's A Current Affair played security video footage of Sheik Hilali kicking in a door in his own mosque before calling in the police to report an act of vandalism.
The Muslim youths believe Sheik Hilali staged the vandalism to frame them and gain public support.
Sheik Hilali has denied the allegations and says there is more CCTV footage that proves there was a break-in.
See video post March 18 09
Sydney's Occupied Territories: Sheik Taj Din Al Hilaly, trashes Mosque then calls Police to find culprit.
Monday, March 23, 2009
Sydney's Occupied Territories:Sydney Airport Killing aftermath
Gang squad doubled after 15 minutes of airport mayhem
SMH
Alexandra Smith and Jonathan Dart
March 23, 2009 - 4:50PM
An extra 75 officers will be added to the Police Gang Squad to tackle outlaw bikie gangs after yesterday's airport violence, the Premier Nathan Rees announced today.
The increase more than doubles the size of Strike Force Raptor to 125 officers.
Rees: No airport security concerns
The New South Wales Premier announces an extra 75 officers for the Police Gang Squad after violence at Sydney Airport on Sunday.
Mr Rees made the announcement after a briefing from NSW Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione.
Mr Scipione - who has had two conversations with the Federal Police Commissioner Mick Keelty today - said he understood the whole incident at Sydney Airport lasted less than 15 minutes.
He said airport security was a serious issue but would not be drawn on whether there were serious lapses in the way the incident was handled yesterday.
Mr Rees said the government was also considering toughening legislation to enable the declaration of prohibited criminal gangs and their members and restricting access of gang members to working in industries identified as high risk. No detail was provided on these industries.
"We are responding swiftly to these recent brazen acts - I will not stand by while these criminals put innocent people at risk,'' Mr Rees said.
Commissioner Keelty says he will review his officers' response to the airport incident in which a 29-year-old man died.
He admitted that police were caught unaware and said that, among the issues to be reviewed, were police numbers at the airport and the quality of police intelligence gathering before the brawl.
Impressed
But he said he has had initial briefings with the police involved and said he was impressed with the time police took to respond to emergency calls.
"The security at Sydney Airport after yesterday's incident ... the first call to triple-0 went in at 1.43pm yesterday afternoon, the first call to the airport police commander came in at 1.46pm and the first police responded at 1.47, one minute later," he said.
"So in terms of response times, it's all within acceptable response times and responsible standards. [NSW Police] Commissioner [Andrew] Scipione and I have spoken about this this morning and last night and the police were there as soon as practicable."
Mr Keelty said he was unaware of media reports that some officers stood by while the brawl unfolded.
"No I haven't [heard of the reports] and we will of course debrief the response yesterday," he said. "But in my discussions with Police Commissioner Scipione this morning we understand the response was appropriate.
"The fact that four arrests were made straight afterwards demonstrates that there was a good exchange of intelligence from the police who were first to arrive on the scene and to those police who took up the investigation."
Mr Keelty said the next step would be to review CCTV footage of the incident.
He said 14 police officers were on duty at Sydney Airport yesterday afternoon, which is consistent with the number recommended under the 2005 Wheeler report into security at Australia's airports.
"There was a full complement of staff at Sydney Airport, remembering that the staff at the airport are Federal Police people, but they are people with state police experience who are seconded to the Federal Police for airport security," he said.
"In terms of numbers at the airport, this has been reviewed three times and you can only have the number of police there that the threat and the risk examined tells you to put there.
"We will have to look at that in light of what happened yesterday, but there was nothing to suggest this was going to happen before it actually occurred, and of course had we known more about this before it actually occurred, there would have been a different type of response."
45-second rule
But international security protocols state that security staff need to be able to get to all areas within 45 seconds, an international security expert said.
"If you can't achieve 45 seconds, there's almost no point even [monitoring the area]," said the expert, who did not wish to be named.
"Terrorist events, if they are going to occur, are going to occur with the speed and the violence that we saw yesterday.
"You don't have time to wait five minutes for a response team to get there."
It had amazed him that a violent brawl resulting in a man's death had occurred at Sydney Airport, presumed to be a relatively secure public area.
"However, I'm not surprised. Australia pays lip service to its security at airports," he said.
He called for more stringent entry requirements for Australian Federal Police and changes to security procedures.
"If we look [at airports] overseas, the security is across the extreme perimeter of the building, prior to the entry, whereas in Australia the security action is only after people check in."
While it may have been difficult to predict a stainless steel bollard would have been used to bludgeon someone, the expert said authorities also had to be more vigilant in ensuring nothing at the airport could be used as a weapon.
Qantas, which operates the T3 check-in terminal where the brawl occurred, expressed shock but said the matter was one for police and that it would not comment further.
It said it was responsible only for screening passengers and that "visitors to the public area of the terminal ... are not screened".
Background
In a turf war, victims will be mown down
by Paul Kent
The Daily Telegraph
February 05, 2009 12:00am
A SCRAP of iron 4m long lay in the middle of Crystal St. The message was clear: it is only a matter of time until an innocent gets killed.
At the 7-Eleven across the road from the Hells Angels' Petersham clubhouse a green 4WD drive remained with its windows blown in.
The driver was paying for petrol when the bomb went off.
Shopfront windows were shattered, debris powdered the road, the awning in front of the clubhouse was splintered at violent angles.
Nobody was killed. Not yesterday, anyway. Tomorrow, who knows? Sydney is in the middle of a bikie war, and it is worse than any of us had thought.
Police are still uncertain who was behind yesterday's bombing - mostly because there are too many candidates to pinpoint one.
It is not as easy as saying the Hells Angels, for example, are at war with the Rebels, so it must have been the Rebels. All the gangs are at war with each other, perhaps prompted because a new gang, called Notorious, has emerged.
In their grab for turf, Notorious has almost certainly sent rival gangs back to old battle lines.
But the police know it is much worse. Within the gangs, chapters are at war with chapters.
Then on top of this there are the ethnic gangs, Lebanese and Asian, who supply and deal drugs and might have had their own point to prove to the Hells Angels yesterday.
Sydney is in fear, and rightfully so.
The Hells Angels have promised retribution for yesterday's bombing. If they know who it was then they are one step ahead of the police, who need help.
Naturally, the Hells Angels are not saying. Certainly revenge will come, and at what cost? For starters, the old rules no longer apply.
Where businesses and homes were once off limits, police fear the modern bikie who behaves as if nothing is sacred.
These police do not have a clue what is happening.
They do not know why it started. And they do not know exactly who is involved - other than to say all of them are.
Yesterday, the outmanned NSW Police picked through the debris hoping to find something that would take them somewhere.
They worked for hours.
Meanwhile Premier Nathan Rees, called to action by a frightened public, responded with silence.
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd continued selling insulation for homes.
Bullets are being fired into houses with kids' bikes in the front yard.
The windows were blown out of Crystal Building Supplies next door to the clubhouse.
A sign on the side of the building read: "Reinforcing and building products, Open six days a week."
Must have been the day off.
Behind Sydney's bikie bloodshed: two gangs 'out of control'
SMH
Arjun Ramachandran
March 23, 2009 - 4:31PM
The president of one of two Hells Angels chapters in Sydney was one of the three men "ambushed" by members of the "out of control" Comanchero club at Sydney Airport yesterday, a source close to the bikie community says.
Derek Wainohu, president of the Guildford chapter, has been working to get bikie clubs to resolve their disputes peacefully, the source said.
He was returning from an anniversary party in Melbourne with a fellow Hells Angel and his brother when they were "set upon" by members of the rival club, the source said.
In the ensuing violence, the 29-year-old brother - who was not a Hells Angel member - was killed after he was bashed repeatedly on the head with a metal bollard.
"It was a social thing, an anniversary in Melbourne ... it may have been a membership anniversary for one of the [Hells Angels] members in Melbourne," the source said.
The incident bolstered opinion in the bikie community that the Comanchero and Notorious were "rogue groups" that were not viewed as genuine outlaw motorcycle groups, he said.
"They are out of control. They have a very strong Lebanese presence. They have a very strong leaning towards a much more radical approach," he said.
This "radical approach" was upsetting other clubs as the Government considers tougher legislation against bikie clubs that would allow them to be declared outlaw organisations.
"Because of the situation in South Australia, there has been a very, very strong push to establish a more appropriate methodology to dealing with issues between [clubs]," the source said.
"Derek is the driving force to try and get something in NSW so when there's a problem or disagreement in clubs it's resolved essentially around a boardroom table ... [and] none of this caper seen in Sydney.
"But what we are facing is a small minority of clubs leaning towards violence."
He described Notorious as "out of control" and the Comanchero as "mad dogs" of the outlaw motorcycle club scene.
"They are viewed as gangsters putting colours on their backs as some sort of camouflage [to make people think they are bikies]."
Even worse, the Comancheros were supporting smaller "junior" clubs that carry out acts of violence while wearing the colours of rival clubs including the Bandidos and Hells Angels.
He said senior members of those clubs had even approached senior members of the Lebanese community to try to bring the younger outlaws under control.
"They said: 'These guys are using our colours. Can you pull them into line?' " he said.
The source was not sure of the exact motivation for yesterday's attacks, but suggested Wainohu's views on some issues might have made him a target of the Comanchero.
"Wainohu has been quite parochial in relation to patriotism," he said.
"He's very vocal about the things going on in the Middle East, terrorism coming into Australia ... and on following the Australian way."
He did not anticipate swift retribution, citing the absence of an immediate "hit back" attack after the firebombing of the Hells Angel clubhouse in Petersham last month.
"I think it's the first time very senior members of the Hells Angels have been targeted in this manner. It's a very dangerous thing to do.
"But if retaliation is to occur I think it will be very controlled and measured. I don't think it will come rapidly."
While Hells Angels would have concluded "something has to be done", this could be a number of options that included retaliation or a demand for compensation.
He did not believe bikie clubs would drop their conciliatory approach to resolving disputes as a result of the attack.
"These are very intelligent men with an atypical upbringing.
"Many will be still trying to engage with these clubs and trying to bring about some sort of change."
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