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Protesters target cafe in Gaza row
By EVAN HARDING and DYLAN THORNE - The Southland Times
Stuff.co.nz Saturday, 17 January 2009
Protesters took to the streets of Invercargill yesterday, targeting a city cafe that is refusing to serve Israeli nationals.
About 15 placard-waving protesters stood opposite the Mevlana Cafe in Esk St at lunchtime chanting "Kiwis don't discriminate, Kiwis don't give in to hate". The words were aimed at cafe owners Mustafa and Joanne Tekinkaya, who ordered Israeli sisters Natalie Bennie and Tamara Shefa out of their cafe on Wednesday because of their nationality.
The Tekinkayas said they would not serve any Israelis in their cafe until Israel stopped killing innocent women and children on the Gaza Strip. The protesters said they were taking the peaceful protest action against the cafe owners because they had subjected the Israeli sisters to hate and discrimination, which was unfair, heavy-handed and unacceptable in New Zealand. Five hours after the protest action took place, Foreign Affairs Minister Murray McCully said he was disappointed to read what had happened to the two Israeli women.
Responding to calls by the Israeli ambassador for the Government to take action, Mr McCully told The Southland Times people had very strong views on the situation in the Middle East. "But it's to be hoped that this sort of thing isn't to be imported into New Zealand." He would not answer further questions on the issue. One of the Esk St protesters, Anna Chilton, who is of Jewish descent, said the cafe owners had been heavy-handed towards the women. "It is inappropriate and embarrassing for Invercargill and New Zealand. It's a nationwide racist embarrassment," she said. Emily Beale, of Invercargill, said the cafe owners had brought the war to Invercargill. "We are against the war as well but don't bring it here, don't discriminate."
Standing outside the cafe, on the other side of the road from the protesters, Carl and Racheal Goldsmith and son Dante O'Kane were staging a protest of their own against Israel's offensive in the Gaza Strip. Mrs Goldsmith, who said they were anti-war but not anti-Israel, said she had always wanted to protest against the conflict in Gaza but had needed a catalyst. She did not necessarily support the stance taken by the cafe owners in refusing to serve Israelis but said she supported their point. "I think it's a much wider issue (than discrimination)." She knew what it was like to lose a child, she said. "It doesn't matter what country it's in, it's still tragic."
Several people being served at the Mevlana Cafe said the cafe owner was standing up for what he believed in. Robert Guyton, of Riverton, said Mr Tekinkaya felt passionately about the death of innocent women and children and "who could blame him?" He added he empathised with the two Israeli women ordered out of the cafe.
Cafe owner Mustafa Tekinkaya, a Turkish Muslim, has said throughout this week his actions had nothing to do with racism. He declined to comment on the protest action taken against him, but pointed to a sign on his shop window, which said "Stop the War". "That's what it's all about," Mr Tekinkaya said.
Turkish Kebabs, also in Esk St, said on Wednesday it, too, would not serve Israelis until the war stopped. However, A La Turka, the Turkish Kebab House in Dee St, had a sign on its window yesterday saying everyone was welcome.
Its a Turkish thing: Turkish Jewish community is in doubt
Mein Kampf sales soar in Turkey
Mein Kampf, the book Hitler wrote in prison before he rose to power in 1933, has become a bestseller in Turkey, provoking consternation. The dreams of creating a master race are being snapped up by young Turks. Its publishers believe that more than 100,000 copies have been sold in the past two months. Its sudden appeal has alarmed Turkey's Jewish community and is causing concern in the EU. A German diplomat said its success "might not give the right signals" to Europeans in advance of Turkey's opening accession talks in October. Full story here at the Guardian
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By EVAN HARDING and DYLAN THORNE - The Southland Times
Stuff.co.nz Saturday, 17 January 2009
Protesters took to the streets of Invercargill yesterday, targeting a city cafe that is refusing to serve Israeli nationals.
About 15 placard-waving protesters stood opposite the Mevlana Cafe in Esk St at lunchtime chanting "Kiwis don't discriminate, Kiwis don't give in to hate". The words were aimed at cafe owners Mustafa and Joanne Tekinkaya, who ordered Israeli sisters Natalie Bennie and Tamara Shefa out of their cafe on Wednesday because of their nationality.
The Tekinkayas said they would not serve any Israelis in their cafe until Israel stopped killing innocent women and children on the Gaza Strip. The protesters said they were taking the peaceful protest action against the cafe owners because they had subjected the Israeli sisters to hate and discrimination, which was unfair, heavy-handed and unacceptable in New Zealand. Five hours after the protest action took place, Foreign Affairs Minister Murray McCully said he was disappointed to read what had happened to the two Israeli women.
Responding to calls by the Israeli ambassador for the Government to take action, Mr McCully told The Southland Times people had very strong views on the situation in the Middle East. "But it's to be hoped that this sort of thing isn't to be imported into New Zealand." He would not answer further questions on the issue. One of the Esk St protesters, Anna Chilton, who is of Jewish descent, said the cafe owners had been heavy-handed towards the women. "It is inappropriate and embarrassing for Invercargill and New Zealand. It's a nationwide racist embarrassment," she said. Emily Beale, of Invercargill, said the cafe owners had brought the war to Invercargill. "We are against the war as well but don't bring it here, don't discriminate."
Standing outside the cafe, on the other side of the road from the protesters, Carl and Racheal Goldsmith and son Dante O'Kane were staging a protest of their own against Israel's offensive in the Gaza Strip. Mrs Goldsmith, who said they were anti-war but not anti-Israel, said she had always wanted to protest against the conflict in Gaza but had needed a catalyst. She did not necessarily support the stance taken by the cafe owners in refusing to serve Israelis but said she supported their point. "I think it's a much wider issue (than discrimination)." She knew what it was like to lose a child, she said. "It doesn't matter what country it's in, it's still tragic."
Several people being served at the Mevlana Cafe said the cafe owner was standing up for what he believed in. Robert Guyton, of Riverton, said Mr Tekinkaya felt passionately about the death of innocent women and children and "who could blame him?" He added he empathised with the two Israeli women ordered out of the cafe.
Cafe owner Mustafa Tekinkaya, a Turkish Muslim, has said throughout this week his actions had nothing to do with racism. He declined to comment on the protest action taken against him, but pointed to a sign on his shop window, which said "Stop the War". "That's what it's all about," Mr Tekinkaya said.
Turkish Kebabs, also in Esk St, said on Wednesday it, too, would not serve Israelis until the war stopped. However, A La Turka, the Turkish Kebab House in Dee St, had a sign on its window yesterday saying everyone was welcome.
Its a Turkish thing: Turkish Jewish community is in doubt
Mein Kampf sales soar in Turkey
Mein Kampf, the book Hitler wrote in prison before he rose to power in 1933, has become a bestseller in Turkey, provoking consternation. The dreams of creating a master race are being snapped up by young Turks. Its publishers believe that more than 100,000 copies have been sold in the past two months. Its sudden appeal has alarmed Turkey's Jewish community and is causing concern in the EU. A German diplomat said its success "might not give the right signals" to Europeans in advance of Turkey's opening accession talks in October. Full story here at the Guardian
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"Stop the War". "That's what it's all about," Mr Tekinkaya said.
OR
"One woman I didn't serve made huge noise. I love it, I love it - it's how I want it to be."
Friday, January 16, 2009
Religion of Peace: The Muslim way, Death Threats, to Michael Smith 4BC announcer.
Hijab row leads to death threats
News.com.au
January 16, 2009 07:48pm
THE Brisbane radio announcer who suggested the hijab be removed in banks and shops has received death threats.
4BC announcer Michael Smith on Wednesday said wearing a face-covering such as some Muslim women do posed a security risk because it made identification difficult in the event of a crime.
Burka Ban call update,how the PC MSM deals with the whistle blower
Wearing a face-veil in certain places, such as shopping centres, was also offensive and scared little children, he said.
In a recorded threat on the station website a caller says "you're head is on a plate (expletive beeped). You're going to be dead soon
(expletive beeped), racist bitch''.
Station general manager David McDonald today said most of the calls seemed to emanate from Sydney and he said Smith's original comments had been taken out of context.
"This has been really blown out of total proportion,'' Mr McDonald said.
"There was never any racism in this at all. There was nothing about religion, it was all about purely security and safety issues.''
Mr McDonald said Mr Smith's call was only to show the face, not to remove headwear.
"A lot of criminals have used this to sort of disguise themselves.''
Mr Smith, an ex-policeman, was aware of the trauma robberies cause, Mr McDonald said.
"It was never about racism.
Complaints, both to official channels and those phoned in to the radio station, were based on media interpretations of Mr Smith's comments rather than the comments themselves, the general manager said.
"That is extremely disappointing that it's been hijacked for other purposes.''
Mr McDonald said upset staff had been counselled and security stepped up.
On the station's website Mr Smith defends his comments.
"It seems this country's media finds it difficult to talk sensibly about certain topics,'' today's entry reads.
"I've been branded a racist in writing by a major national television network who should know better.
``How could anyone say that my comments were racist?''
Queensland police acknowledged that a complaint had been made by the radio station and said it was under investigation.
News.com.au
January 16, 2009 07:48pm
THE Brisbane radio announcer who suggested the hijab be removed in banks and shops has received death threats.
4BC announcer Michael Smith on Wednesday said wearing a face-covering such as some Muslim women do posed a security risk because it made identification difficult in the event of a crime.
Burka Ban call update,how the PC MSM deals with the whistle blower
In a recorded threat on the station website a caller says "you're head is on a plate (expletive beeped). You're going to be dead soon
(expletive beeped), racist bitch''.
Station general manager David McDonald today said most of the calls seemed to emanate from Sydney and he said Smith's original comments had been taken out of context.
"This has been really blown out of total proportion,'' Mr McDonald said.
"There was never any racism in this at all. There was nothing about religion, it was all about purely security and safety issues.''
Mr McDonald said Mr Smith's call was only to show the face, not to remove headwear.
"A lot of criminals have used this to sort of disguise themselves.''
Mr Smith, an ex-policeman, was aware of the trauma robberies cause, Mr McDonald said.
"It was never about racism.
Complaints, both to official channels and those phoned in to the radio station, were based on media interpretations of Mr Smith's comments rather than the comments themselves, the general manager said.
"That is extremely disappointing that it's been hijacked for other purposes.''
Mr McDonald said upset staff had been counselled and security stepped up.
On the station's website Mr Smith defends his comments.
"It seems this country's media finds it difficult to talk sensibly about certain topics,'' today's entry reads.
"I've been branded a racist in writing by a major national television network who should know better.
``How could anyone say that my comments were racist?''
Queensland police acknowledged that a complaint had been made by the radio station and said it was under investigation.
The Muslim Way, Death threats from faceless Assassins, what else would you expect from the members of the Religion of Peace?
New Zealand based Turkish Muslim Racist Bigot, refuses service to two Israeli women in cafe.
Stuff.co.nz
15 1 09
An Invercargill cafe owner's refusal to serve Israelis on the basis of their nationality is a clear human rights breach, Race Relations Commissioner Joris de Bres says.
Sisters Natalie Bennie and Tamara Shefa were upset after being booted out of the Mevlana Cafe in Esk St yesterday by owner Mustafa Tekinkaya.
They chose to eat at Mevlana Cafe because it had a play area for Mrs Bennie's two children, but they were told to leave before they had ordered any food, Mrs Bennie said.
"He heard us speaking Hebrew and he asked us where we were from. I said Israel and he said 'get out, I am not serving you'. It was shocking."
Mr Tekinkaya, who is Muslim and from Turkey, said he was making his own protest against Israel because it was killing innocent babies and women in the Gaza Strip.
"I have decided as a protest not to serve Israelis until the war stops."
He said he had nothing against Israeli people but if any more came into his shop they would also be told to leave, and he was not concerned if he lost business.
Mr de Bres said the Human Rights Act prohibited discrimination in the provision of goods and services on the grounds of ethnic or national origin, or of political opinion.
"Whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation in Palestine, it is simply against the law for providers of goods and services in New Zealand to discriminate in this way," he said.
Mr Tekinkaya's stance was supported by neighbouring Turkish Kebabs shop owner Ali Uzun, who said he was also refusing to serve Israelis.
Mrs Bennie said she did not disagree that Israel was committing crimes against children.
"I just don't think I should be declined service because I am from Israel."
She had rung the Human Rights Commission and was told the cafe owner's actions were against the law because he was discriminating on the basis of ethnicity.
"I wouldn't mind having a chat to him. Someone has to put him in his place," Mrs Bennie said.
Ms Shefa is visiting Mrs Bennie at her Makarewa home, on the outskirts of Invercargill, where she lives with her New Zealand husband and two children.
Both women said they had travelled widely, and to places much more hostile than New Zealand, but had never been treated in such a way.
Invercargill Mayor Tim Shadbolt was shocked when told of the incident.
"Oh my god, the Gaza Strip has come to Invercargill. Hell's bells."
He said he was bewildered.
"Generally speaking I am against all wars and I suppose people have got a right to protest. I couldn't really deny that. It would have been upsetting for the women and I feel sympathy for them."
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Mr Tekinkaya says he is happy the women have complained loudly about his actions, as that is exactly what he wanted. He says he enjoyed the reaction when he refused them service.
"One woman I didn't serve made huge noise. I love it, I love it - it's how I want it to be."
"One woman I didn't serve made huge noise. I love it, I love it - it's how I want it to be."
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"Be careful with love. Think twice before marrying a Muslim
Cardinal warns Roman Catholic women against marrying Muslim men'
News.com.au
January 15, 2009 02:25am
A PORTUGESE cardinal has warned Roman Catholic women against marrying Muslim men.
"Be careful with love. Think twice before marrying a Muslim, think seriously because it brings loads of hassle - and even Allah can't say where all that will end,'' Jose Policarpo, the Cardinal Patriarch of Lisbon, said during a public debate.
"When you recognise what a young European of Christian upbringing is subjected to, given Muslim attitudes to women, the first time she goes to their countries, we can imagine what that entails.
"You can only dialogue with someone who is willing to dialogue. With our Muslim brothers, for example, dialogue is very difficult,'' he said.
"We have taken the first steps, but it's extremely difficult - because for them, their truth is the only way.''
Around 40,000 Muslims live in Portugal, according to Lisbon's Islamic community leaders - who have yet to react to the cardinal's remarks.
A spokesman for Portugal's episcopal community, Manuel Marujao, said that Policarpo was offering "realistic advice'' which he said amounted neither to "discrimination nor contempt for another culture or religion'', according to the Catholic news agency Ecclesia.
News.com.au
January 15, 2009 02:25am
A PORTUGESE cardinal has warned Roman Catholic women against marrying Muslim men.
"Be careful with love. Think twice before marrying a Muslim, think seriously because it brings loads of hassle - and even Allah can't say where all that will end,'' Jose Policarpo, the Cardinal Patriarch of Lisbon, said during a public debate.
"When you recognise what a young European of Christian upbringing is subjected to, given Muslim attitudes to women, the first time she goes to their countries, we can imagine what that entails.
"You can only dialogue with someone who is willing to dialogue. With our Muslim brothers, for example, dialogue is very difficult,'' he said.
"We have taken the first steps, but it's extremely difficult - because for them, their truth is the only way.''
Around 40,000 Muslims live in Portugal, according to Lisbon's Islamic community leaders - who have yet to react to the cardinal's remarks.
A spokesman for Portugal's episcopal community, Manuel Marujao, said that Policarpo was offering "realistic advice'' which he said amounted neither to "discrimination nor contempt for another culture or religion'', according to the Catholic news agency Ecclesia.
Thursday, January 15, 2009
Burka Ban call update, how the PC MSM deals with the whistle blower.
How the Politically Correct Main Stream Media dealt with Mike Smith.
Islamic colonization of Australia by stealth facilitated by Multiculturalism and the left.
Alcohol creates 'barrier' for Muslims
Yahoo News
October 10, 2008, 6:16 pm
Alcohol, food and gender relations are the key barriers to social interaction between Muslim and non-Muslim Australians, a study suggests.
The findings emerged from a study commissioned by the federal government to develop better community-based integration programs.
The project focused on Muslims who have experienced racism since the 2005 Cronulla riots.
To determine social barriers, researchers interviewed a group of 10 Muslims who socialise predominantly with other Muslims. They also spoke to 10 non-Muslims from the Cronulla area who did not mix with Muslims.
Among the non-Muslims, it was not well-known that drinking alcohol is forbidden under Islam.
The concept of halal - denoting what is permissible under Islam - was also little understood.
Female Muslim interviewees said they could not understand how drinking by non-Muslims can be seen as responsible behaviour.
Their male counterparts said they would refuse invitations to events where alcohol was consumed to shield the women from it.
Some of the respondents said they felt morally compelled to avoid alcohol, even if halal food was provided.
Experiences of racism, language barriers and social demographics also made the Muslim participants more hesitant to mix with non-Muslims.
The study also looked at community-based programs designed to promote integration and socialisation between the two groups.
It found local councils were doing relatively little to build bridges between Muslims and non-Muslims.
The non-government sector was found to be the leader in building relations. And activities that encouraged contact, like sport, were the most successful.
"There is great scope for greater participation by councils in this area," the study says.
It said local, state and federal governments should do more to engage mainstream community groups with Muslim organisations, fund documentaries that feature positive stories of Muslims, and undertake a "public myth-busting" campaign to promote peace and tolerance.
Parliamentary Secretary for Multicultural Affairs Laurie Ferguson welcomed the report.
"It is by undertaking and evaluating research such as this that we become more responsive to our community's changing needs," he said in a statement.
"We all have a role to play in making our communities more inclusive and stronger for the future."
In 2006 there were 340,000 Muslim Australians, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics.
NSW has the largest Muslim population, close to 170,000, of whom most live within 50km of the Sydney city
Muslims plan $10m enclave
The West.com.au
13th December 2008, 11:00 WST
The Islamic community plans to build a Muslim-only housing development and recreation centre as part of a $10 million complex in Rivervale.
Islamic Council of WA spokesman Rahim Ghauri said the group had an architect-designed concept plan for a six-storey housing development, an underground carpark and a hall for weddings, conferences and religious and recreational activities.
Mr Ghauri rejected claims the housing would further isolate sectors of the Muslim community from mainstream society, claiming the venue would be used to teach Islamic youth how to become good Australian citizens.
And the council’s religious adviser, Abdul Jalil Ahmad, said it was useful for different religious or ethnic groups to have separate residential enclaves so their customs and exotic cooking smells did not offend neighbours.
“It’s ideal for any ethnic group because you can deal with each other in an easier way,” Mr Ahmad said.
“In South Africa, because of apartheid, all different communities were set up and it worked well. It kept people separate. We can be together in terms of our contribution to the wider community.”
Mr Jalil, who once tried to set up a sharia court in WA to settle disputes in the Muslim community through an incorporated body, plans to live in the 20-unit complex on the community’s 1280sqm Malvern Street block.
Mr Rahim said it would provide affordable housing for Muslims and be first-stop accommodation for Islamic students and newcomers to help integrate them into society.
The group wants donations from “generous Muslims” locally and all over the world for the complex and so far had $100,000. He declined to reveal who was approached but said all donations would be declared to the Government.
The council hoped to buy neighbouring vacant land from Landcorp to extend the development, possibly with offices, another carpark and sporting facilities.
Mr Rahim said WA’s Muslim community was one of the only religious groups which did not have its own recreation centre. It would offer to rent the hall to non-Muslims.
He said the inclusion of units was necessary to pass local planning laws but the council would include the Muslim-only housing block even if it was forced to move to another area.
Ethnic Communities Council president Ramdas Sankaran supported the development of a Muslim recreation hall but said a separate housing complex for any religious or ethnic group was a “deplorable” idea because it undermined social cohesion and promoted segregation.
He said there was an argument for separate aged-care facilities based on race or religion, but building a general housing complex for families set a dangerous precedent which he believed would not have support in the Muslim or broader communities.
“Self exclusion is just as bad as being excluded by other parties in Australia. It’s not in the interests of any group,” Mr Sankaran said.
Belmont mayor Glenys Godfrey had informal talks with the group but a council spokesman said it could not comment until it saw the plans.
PERTH
KIM MACDONALD
The two stories above show yet again the total insanity of allowing immigrants from Islamic countries into Australia, or indeed any western democracy.
Muslims them selves tell us they have no intention of becoming assimilated into Judeo Christian western democracy/culture, yet our leaders and Islams facilitators and apologists on the left continually spruik the Islamic mantra of Islam been a "Religion of Peace" and they "just want to get along" and further "enrich Australia's rich and diverse Multicultural tapestry"clearly these people and their fifth column are here as nothing more than a malignant advance party, of free loading parasites, whose only purpose is to colonize Australia, until such time as they reach sufficient numbers to declare their self created ghetto's, aka Australia's occupied territories, their own sovereign territory.
Given Muslim's resident in Australia constant demands for Australians to acquiesce to their every demand to accommodate, and indeed adopt, their retarded and backward culture and superstitions, Australians have to ask themselves, how much longer will we tolerate our leaders allowing the followers of this malignant cult to enter Australia?
Australians need only look to what was once the United Kingdom and France, to see the manifestations of 30 years of Islamic colonization in order to see our future, should this failed sinister policy of Multiculturalism continue.
Islam can only exist as an oppressive majority or a disruptive minority, our leaders know this we must demand to know why, in spite of this, they, like the newly elected US President B H Obama they to "...side with Islam" and not with Australians.
Yahoo News
October 10, 2008, 6:16 pm
Alcohol, food and gender relations are the key barriers to social interaction between Muslim and non-Muslim Australians, a study suggests.
The findings emerged from a study commissioned by the federal government to develop better community-based integration programs.
The project focused on Muslims who have experienced racism since the 2005 Cronulla riots.
To determine social barriers, researchers interviewed a group of 10 Muslims who socialise predominantly with other Muslims. They also spoke to 10 non-Muslims from the Cronulla area who did not mix with Muslims.
Among the non-Muslims, it was not well-known that drinking alcohol is forbidden under Islam.
The concept of halal - denoting what is permissible under Islam - was also little understood.
Female Muslim interviewees said they could not understand how drinking by non-Muslims can be seen as responsible behaviour.
Their male counterparts said they would refuse invitations to events where alcohol was consumed to shield the women from it.
Some of the respondents said they felt morally compelled to avoid alcohol, even if halal food was provided.
Experiences of racism, language barriers and social demographics also made the Muslim participants more hesitant to mix with non-Muslims.
The study also looked at community-based programs designed to promote integration and socialisation between the two groups.
It found local councils were doing relatively little to build bridges between Muslims and non-Muslims.
The non-government sector was found to be the leader in building relations. And activities that encouraged contact, like sport, were the most successful.
"There is great scope for greater participation by councils in this area," the study says.
It said local, state and federal governments should do more to engage mainstream community groups with Muslim organisations, fund documentaries that feature positive stories of Muslims, and undertake a "public myth-busting" campaign to promote peace and tolerance.
Parliamentary Secretary for Multicultural Affairs Laurie Ferguson welcomed the report.
"It is by undertaking and evaluating research such as this that we become more responsive to our community's changing needs," he said in a statement.
"We all have a role to play in making our communities more inclusive and stronger for the future."
In 2006 there were 340,000 Muslim Australians, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics.
NSW has the largest Muslim population, close to 170,000, of whom most live within 50km of the Sydney city
Muslims plan $10m enclave
The West.com.au
13th December 2008, 11:00 WST
The Islamic community plans to build a Muslim-only housing development and recreation centre as part of a $10 million complex in Rivervale.
Islamic Council of WA spokesman Rahim Ghauri said the group had an architect-designed concept plan for a six-storey housing development, an underground carpark and a hall for weddings, conferences and religious and recreational activities.
Mr Ghauri rejected claims the housing would further isolate sectors of the Muslim community from mainstream society, claiming the venue would be used to teach Islamic youth how to become good Australian citizens.
And the council’s religious adviser, Abdul Jalil Ahmad, said it was useful for different religious or ethnic groups to have separate residential enclaves so their customs and exotic cooking smells did not offend neighbours.
“It’s ideal for any ethnic group because you can deal with each other in an easier way,” Mr Ahmad said.
“In South Africa, because of apartheid, all different communities were set up and it worked well. It kept people separate. We can be together in terms of our contribution to the wider community.”
Mr Jalil, who once tried to set up a sharia court in WA to settle disputes in the Muslim community through an incorporated body, plans to live in the 20-unit complex on the community’s 1280sqm Malvern Street block.
Mr Rahim said it would provide affordable housing for Muslims and be first-stop accommodation for Islamic students and newcomers to help integrate them into society.
The group wants donations from “generous Muslims” locally and all over the world for the complex and so far had $100,000. He declined to reveal who was approached but said all donations would be declared to the Government.
The council hoped to buy neighbouring vacant land from Landcorp to extend the development, possibly with offices, another carpark and sporting facilities.
Mr Rahim said WA’s Muslim community was one of the only religious groups which did not have its own recreation centre. It would offer to rent the hall to non-Muslims.
He said the inclusion of units was necessary to pass local planning laws but the council would include the Muslim-only housing block even if it was forced to move to another area.
Ethnic Communities Council president Ramdas Sankaran supported the development of a Muslim recreation hall but said a separate housing complex for any religious or ethnic group was a “deplorable” idea because it undermined social cohesion and promoted segregation.
He said there was an argument for separate aged-care facilities based on race or religion, but building a general housing complex for families set a dangerous precedent which he believed would not have support in the Muslim or broader communities.
“Self exclusion is just as bad as being excluded by other parties in Australia. It’s not in the interests of any group,” Mr Sankaran said.
Belmont mayor Glenys Godfrey had informal talks with the group but a council spokesman said it could not comment until it saw the plans.
PERTH
KIM MACDONALD
The two stories above show yet again the total insanity of allowing immigrants from Islamic countries into Australia, or indeed any western democracy.
Muslims them selves tell us they have no intention of becoming assimilated into Judeo Christian western democracy/culture, yet our leaders and Islams facilitators and apologists on the left continually spruik the Islamic mantra of Islam been a "Religion of Peace" and they "just want to get along" and further "enrich Australia's rich and diverse Multicultural tapestry"clearly these people and their fifth column are here as nothing more than a malignant advance party, of free loading parasites, whose only purpose is to colonize Australia, until such time as they reach sufficient numbers to declare their self created ghetto's, aka Australia's occupied territories, their own sovereign territory.
Given Muslim's resident in Australia constant demands for Australians to acquiesce to their every demand to accommodate, and indeed adopt, their retarded and backward culture and superstitions, Australians have to ask themselves, how much longer will we tolerate our leaders allowing the followers of this malignant cult to enter Australia?
Australians need only look to what was once the United Kingdom and France, to see the manifestations of 30 years of Islamic colonization in order to see our future, should this failed sinister policy of Multiculturalism continue.
Islam can only exist as an oppressive majority or a disruptive minority, our leaders know this we must demand to know why, in spite of this, they, like the newly elected US President B H Obama they to "...side with Islam" and not with Australians.
Michael Smith 4BC, Australian Retailers call for Muslim Hijab Ban
Retailers back call for hijab ban
News.com.au
January 15, 2009 02:01pm
A RADIO announcer's call for a ban on Islamic hijabs has been backed by the National Retailers Association.
The peak national body has called for all hijabs, helmets and hoodies to be banned in shops and banks for security purposes.
Brisbane radio presenter Michael Smith angered listeners after calling for Muslim women who wear a hijab to be fined.
The 4BC drive presenter said on Wednesday that wearing the hijab or burka posed a security risk because it obscured the face, making it difficult to identify the wearer in the instance of a crime.
Smith said it should be made an offence.
Pious Muslim Motherhood
Retailers association executive director Scott Driscoll said it had been a long accepted practice to require customers to remove helmets and other identity obscuring headwear when entering a shop or bank.
"Retailers should not have to fear any form of retribution or backlash for requiring the removal of any obscuring headwear, including hijabs, as a condition of entry,'' Mr Driscoll said."This is about ensuring a more safe and secure retail environment for all and being able to readily identify any and all perpetrators of armed hold-ups or shop theft.''
Islamic Council of Queensland president Suliman Sabdia said he was disappointed by Smith's remarks.
Cleric uses Burka to escape
"He has every right to say it but we do say he displays intolerance, and a complete lack of understanding of the Muslim code of conduct,'' Mr Sabdia said.
He said he did not think Mr Smith should be fired, instead inviting him to a meeting to discuss the issues.
"Does revenge really, at the end of the day, solve anything? No,'' he said.
"We forgive him for his lack of understanding, we pray that God almighty gives him the wisdom and the understanding to respect every other individual.''
A poll on the station's website today asking, ``Should we impose restrictions on the wearing of burkas in Australia?'' had a yes result of 76 per cent, and 23 per cent no, at 10am (AEST).
Comment was being sought from 4BC.
What makes this Muslim arse clown think anyone gives a rats arse what he forgives or what the "Muslim code of conduct "is ?
Mr Suliman Sabdia you have come here under false pretences, you were not granted the right to live in Australia so you could educate and impose upon Australian's the neanderthal practices of your cult of Islam, when you were granted the right to live here it was on condition amongst others that you behave yourself and obey OUR laws and OUR "code of conduct" not YOURS.
Islamic immigrants and illegal entrants tell Australians that the country's they ran away from were no longer suitable for civilized occupation and there fore they demanded to to allowed to live in Australia,your socialist left / Islamic bleeding heart fifth column that has infiltrated both of Australia's political party's fell for your speil and without reference to the Australian people allowed you to enter,why then do you and your fellow coreligionists once granted residency in Australia demand that Australia suffer the same dark age customs and paganistic voodoo superstitions that made your countries of birth according to you, no longer suitable to live in?
Muslims in Australia either illegal or legal immigrants or those born here, go back to the countries of your parents / grand parents where the neanderthal religious and social customs you demand be imposed upon Australians are already in place,there you can rape, pillage, plunder and subjugate all you like with out fear of retribution.
Your own words and deeds show Australian's daily that you are totally unsuitable to live in a Judeo / Christian Democracy under the rule of law and the civilized behavior that it manifest's.
"....Should we impose restrictions on the wearing of burkas in Australia?'' had a yes result of 76 per cent, and 23 per cent no,"
GET OUT !!!!!! OR STFUp learn some manners,do as you are told, remember you are uninvited guests in Australia, so behave.
Islam can only exist as a repressive majority or a disruptive minority.
Interview with Smith
Islam can only exist as a repressive majority or a disruptive minority.
Interview with Smith
Wednesday, January 14, 2009
Turkish Jewish community is in doubt
Turkey: Antisemitism Gets Out of Control
Professor Barry Rubin
Director, Global Research in International Affairs (GLORIA) Center http://www.gloriacenter.org
This has been sent to me by a very reliable friend who has agreed to distribution as long as his name is not used. You are invited to post or send to your list. It is not unthinkable that the future of the Turkish Jewish community is in doubt.—Barry Rubin
The Prime Minister in Turkey has encouraged hatred against Israel in his speeches which has become obvious anti-Semitic propaganda among the general public.
There are people around the clock besieging the Israeli consulate in Istanbul shouting their hatred against Israel and Jewish people. All around Istanbul billboards are full of propaganda posters against Israel like; “Moses, even this is not written in your book” and “Israel Stop this Crime.” On the streets the people are writing such graffiti as: “Kill Jews,” “Kill Israel,” “Israel should no longer exist in the Middle East,” and “Stop Israeli Massacre.”
The week-end before, some people wrote, “We will kill you” on the door of one of the biggest synagogues in Izmir resulted in the closing down of synagogues. Near Istanbul University, a group put a huge poster on the door of a shop owned by a Jew: “Do not buy from here, since this shop is owned by a Jew.” A group put posters on his wall saying that: “Jews and Armenians are not allowed but dogs are allowed.” Some young people are even threatening others with violence if they are seen as pro-Israel in social networking websites such as Facebook and Hi5.
The document attached is the official statement by the minister of education stating that tomorrow [January 14] at 11am in all the high schools and primary schools the students will pay homage to the women and children dead during the war and furthermore, the teachers of art will organize the session of painting and writing on the subject: “Humanity Drama in Palestine” and the winners will receive awards.
The Jewish community can do nothing in response to what has been going on for the last few weeks, except giving vague statements that the Turkish Jewish Community does not want the war to be continued any more.
We have previously faced some strong reaction regarding previous operations in Gaza and the West Bank but this time is really different from former ones. I feel open anti-Semitism and hatred from all these people. Nobody understood, Even some widely read columnists in Turkey are writing things that lead all these groups toward this hatred becoming much more dangerous day by day.
But I know one thing: that the world should know about the widespread and openly anti-Semitic propaganda which far exceeds anything happening in Europe.
Professor Barry Rubin
Director, Global Research in International Affairs (GLORIA) Center http://www.gloriacenter.org
Editor, Middle East Review of International Affairs (MERIA) Journal http://www.meriajournal.com
Watch on the Middle East http://www.watchonthemiddleeast.com
Editor Turkish Studies, http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/title~db=all~content=t713636933%22
Professor Barry Rubin
Director, Global Research in International Affairs (GLORIA) Center http://www.gloriacenter.org
This has been sent to me by a very reliable friend who has agreed to distribution as long as his name is not used. You are invited to post or send to your list. It is not unthinkable that the future of the Turkish Jewish community is in doubt.—Barry Rubin
The Prime Minister in Turkey has encouraged hatred against Israel in his speeches which has become obvious anti-Semitic propaganda among the general public.
There are people around the clock besieging the Israeli consulate in Istanbul shouting their hatred against Israel and Jewish people. All around Istanbul billboards are full of propaganda posters against Israel like; “Moses, even this is not written in your book” and “Israel Stop this Crime.” On the streets the people are writing such graffiti as: “Kill Jews,” “Kill Israel,” “Israel should no longer exist in the Middle East,” and “Stop Israeli Massacre.”
The week-end before, some people wrote, “We will kill you” on the door of one of the biggest synagogues in Izmir resulted in the closing down of synagogues. Near Istanbul University, a group put a huge poster on the door of a shop owned by a Jew: “Do not buy from here, since this shop is owned by a Jew.” A group put posters on his wall saying that: “Jews and Armenians are not allowed but dogs are allowed.” Some young people are even threatening others with violence if they are seen as pro-Israel in social networking websites such as Facebook and Hi5.
The document attached is the official statement by the minister of education stating that tomorrow [January 14] at 11am in all the high schools and primary schools the students will pay homage to the women and children dead during the war and furthermore, the teachers of art will organize the session of painting and writing on the subject: “Humanity Drama in Palestine” and the winners will receive awards.
The Jewish community can do nothing in response to what has been going on for the last few weeks, except giving vague statements that the Turkish Jewish Community does not want the war to be continued any more.
We have previously faced some strong reaction regarding previous operations in Gaza and the West Bank but this time is really different from former ones. I feel open anti-Semitism and hatred from all these people. Nobody understood, Even some widely read columnists in Turkey are writing things that lead all these groups toward this hatred becoming much more dangerous day by day.
But I know one thing: that the world should know about the widespread and openly anti-Semitic propaganda which far exceeds anything happening in Europe.
Professor Barry Rubin
Director, Global Research in International Affairs (GLORIA) Center http://www.gloriacenter.org
Editor, Middle East Review of International Affairs (MERIA) Journal http://www.meriajournal.com
Watch on the Middle East http://www.watchonthemiddleeast.com
Editor Turkish Studies, http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/title~db=all~content=t713636933%22
Muslim's video testimony in Sydney terror trial
Terrorist met Australian at boot camp
Michael Pelly
The Australian
January 13, 2009
A CONVICTED terrorist has told of how he met an Australian man accused of plotting an attack on Sydney at a training camp in Pakistan only months after September 11.
Yong Ki Kwon, 33, said via video link from the United States that he had prayed and shared meals with an Australian he knew as Abu Asad at the camp run by Lashkar-E-Taiba (LET) in early November, 2001.
Mr Kwon told the NSW Supreme Court said everyone had a beard and everyone was referred to as Abu - which in Arabic means son of - but the “foreigners” formed their own separate group.
Mr Kwon, who was sentenced to 11 years jail in the United States but served on 28 months after becoming an FBI supergrass, said he met “Abu Asad’’ as he moved to a different part of the camp in the final days on his 45-day program.
After Mr Kwon was led through his evidence, he was questioned extensively by Richard Button SC, the barrister for one of the accused, Moustafa Cheikho.
Mr Cheikho and fours others - his brother Khaled, Mohamed Ali Elomar, Abdul Rakib Hasan and Mohammed Omar Jamal have been charged with conspiring to commit an act, or acts, in preparation for a terrorist act. They have pleaded not guilty.
Mr Kwon said all trainees prayed five times a day and underwent extensive physical training and instruction on how to use weapons including guns and rocket-propelled grenades.
He said he went to Pakistan with three friends from Virginia at the urging of an Islamic cleric and planned to defend Afghanistan against the expected invasion from the United States after the terrorist attacks on September 11.
He identified Asad as Australian because of his accent and said he was about 178cm, with a thick-set build.
As he was preparing to leave, Mr Kwon said he was asked by a man he called “Disco Mujahadeen’’ if he would recruit for LET in the United States but declined the request.
He then went to South Korea, where he was contacted by the FBI and agreed to be questioned.
Mr Kwon will continue giving evidence tomorrow.
Michael Pelly
The Australian
January 13, 2009
A CONVICTED terrorist has told of how he met an Australian man accused of plotting an attack on Sydney at a training camp in Pakistan only months after September 11.
Yong Ki Kwon, 33, said via video link from the United States that he had prayed and shared meals with an Australian he knew as Abu Asad at the camp run by Lashkar-E-Taiba (LET) in early November, 2001.
Mr Kwon told the NSW Supreme Court said everyone had a beard and everyone was referred to as Abu - which in Arabic means son of - but the “foreigners” formed their own separate group.
Mr Kwon, who was sentenced to 11 years jail in the United States but served on 28 months after becoming an FBI supergrass, said he met “Abu Asad’’ as he moved to a different part of the camp in the final days on his 45-day program.
After Mr Kwon was led through his evidence, he was questioned extensively by Richard Button SC, the barrister for one of the accused, Moustafa Cheikho.
Mr Cheikho and fours others - his brother Khaled, Mohamed Ali Elomar, Abdul Rakib Hasan and Mohammed Omar Jamal have been charged with conspiring to commit an act, or acts, in preparation for a terrorist act. They have pleaded not guilty.
Mr Kwon said all trainees prayed five times a day and underwent extensive physical training and instruction on how to use weapons including guns and rocket-propelled grenades.
He said he went to Pakistan with three friends from Virginia at the urging of an Islamic cleric and planned to defend Afghanistan against the expected invasion from the United States after the terrorist attacks on September 11.
He identified Asad as Australian because of his accent and said he was about 178cm, with a thick-set build.
As he was preparing to leave, Mr Kwon said he was asked by a man he called “Disco Mujahadeen’’ if he would recruit for LET in the United States but declined the request.
He then went to South Korea, where he was contacted by the FBI and agreed to be questioned.
Mr Kwon will continue giving evidence tomorrow.
Johm Howard Man of Steel receives US Medal of Honour
Bush honours 'man of steel' John Howard
The Daily Telegraph
January 14, 2009
JOHN Howard has been presented with America's highest civilian award by George W. Bush.
The former prime minister grinned as the US President placed the Presidential Medal of Freedom around his neck this morning.
He was honoured at the White House along with former British prime minister Tony Blair and Colombian President Alvaro Uribe.
Mr Bush said all three were good friends to the US.
"They are the sort of guys who look you in the eye, and tell you the truth and keep their word."
He told them: "You'll always be welcomed in our country. And we hope to have you come down and visit us in Texas.
"As you probably have heard, we're changing addresses here in a little less than seven days."
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