Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy, the USA a story of betrayal

Why we're following US towards a dangerous debt with destiny

Jeff Kennett 
The Daily Telegraph 
January 10, 2013 12:00AM

AS you read this column today my wife Felicity and I will be returning to Australia, having spent three weeks in the US. In New York, Boston and Washington.

It has been a wonderful experience. The extraordinary bustle and energy that is New York, where every language and colour fill the streets. The sights, the theatres, the shopping, the restaurants and the sounds. Simply electric.

But more significant than the sites we visited has been the opportunity to observe the failure of the politicians, the President of the US, the Congress made up of the House of Representatives and the Senate, dealing with the issues surrounding the "fiscal cliff".

The cliff was a political device created in 1917 in an attempt to control the nation's level of debt. Until recently gaining support from both houses of Congress for increasing the debt has not been an issue, as debt levels have 

been manageable. But that has not been the case in recent years. US debt stands at $16 trillion. That is about 106 times our Australian debt of $150 billion.

Under President Barack Obama, US debt has risen from just under $10 trillion when he was elected four years ago by a massive 60 per cent to the $16 trillion the country owes today.

The US fiscal cliff had two inbuilt components which, unless legislators acted, would have automatically become law on January 1, 2013 - substantially higher taxes to generate extra revenue, and a range of expenditure cuts to attempt to stop the growth of the deficit.

Legislators have had two years notice of the December 31, 2012, deadline - yet did nothing until the last week. After a lot of political manoeuvring the Senate and house agreed to what I would call a totally unsatisfactory, in fact cowardly, outcome. A rise in some taxes for those with incomes above $400,000, or $450,000 for couples, some other small income increases, and absolutely no cuts in government expenditure.

In fact, with other new government spending commitments adding $4 trillion to US debt over the next few years, the US economy is going backwards. Within the next two months the president and the legislators will have to return their attention to dealing with the debt ceiling when it reaches its legislated $16.4 trillion limit. If the cost of government programs is not reassessed and reduced, the US is heading for a debt level of $22-24 trillion in four years. That would make the Obama administration the most economically disastrous in American history, with frightening ramifications.

What I have witnessed is the greatest demonstration of a failure of leadership, from the president down.

Never have I seen the philosophy of spending your way out of debt work.

We did not do it in Victoria in the 1990s, nor has Canada nor Turkey. Latvia has not done so in rebuilding its economy.

Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy, the UK to some extent, and clearly the US, are clearly trying to do so - printing more of their currency to get through the next few years without addressing the fundamental reasons for their current economic condition.

They are spending more on recurrent expenditure than they are raising from taxes and charges. Each of these countries are living beyond their means.

A day of economic reckoning will come for them all, and it will not be pleasant.

What is the principal lesson I have learnt from this trip in relation to Australia?

Our economic position is not nearly as bad as the US, at present, but the mentality of our politicians, and we the public, is exactly the same.

We are not accepting any sense of responsibility for our economic and social future.

We are over-governed, we demand and seek too many entitlements from governments, our politicians think short-term, and electoral popularity is more important than electoral responsibility.

It is time for greater accountability and responsibility by all of us. Read the tea leaves, here and in the US!

To ignore the experiences of the US, Greece and Spain, in the belief their economic challenges cannot develop here in Australia, could be the greatest act of hubris of our generation.

Jeff Kennett is a former premier of Victoria and the chairman of beyondblue

Insurgency escalates with proposal for Muslim only housing project to expand Sydney's Occupied Territories borders

Plan for Muslim housing enclave in Sydney suburbs

David Catt and Andrew Carswell 
The Daily Telegraph
January 09, 2013 12:00AM

AN interest-free housing project aimed at the Muslim community and boasting 100 per cent halal housing has sparked a major row, with critics labelling it a discriminatory plan that could lead to a Muslim enclave.

Qartaba Homes' plan offers "100 per cent Halal housing to the growing Muslim community of Australia" in the heart of the northwestern Sydney suburb of Riverstone.( Riverstan ? 

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While the company has insisted people from all religious backgrounds are free to take up the offer, it advises that the loans are "100 per cent Halal" and a "chance to escape Riba (interest)" because interest is a sin under Islamic law.

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Qartaba Homes director Khurram Jawaid said it was the real estate deal of a lifetime, open to Australians of all faiths and backgrounds, but the state MP for Hawkesbury Ray Williams said the project was divisive.

"I can only imagine the repercussions if a developer were to advertise a new Judeo-Christian housing estate; they would be hung, drawn and quartered," Mr Williams said.

"I hardly think the advertisement for a 100 per cent halal Muslim housing community is inclusive; it's very divisive and I'm sure it will be viewed that way by the majority of fair-minded Australians."Blacktown councillor Alan Pendleton said the community was concerned it could turn into an enclave.

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"There's great concern about ... what they consider could be an enclave. (There's a belief) you have to be a Muslim, otherwise they won't sell you a site," Mr Pendleton said

The proposed development is on land bordered by Riverstone ( Riverstan ?  Rd, McCulloch St and Cranbourne St with the company planning to subdivide the land, along with a smaller parcel in Gordon St, Schofields."Our philosophy is interest-free, pay as you own," Mr Jawaid said.

"You don't have to go to a bank or a financial institution.

"It's open to everyone.

"From the business point of view, we can't do it that way (Muslims only)."

While subdivision plans have yet to be presented to Blacktown Council, the company has already "booked out" virtually all of the proposed 150 lots in Riverstone ( Riverstan ? )and 30 in Schofields.

Land parcels range from 400sq m to 800sq m and are being offered at $85,000 plus charges, including a booking deposit of 30-35 per cent and a 24-30 month interest-free payment plan.

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Blacktown Council is investigating the deal, with the mayor Len Robinson saying there is no application before council for a subdivision, but pre-lodgment plans have been given to council.

The company has bought the land from various owners, but Mr Jawaid said Muslim take-up of the offer was "not that overwhelming".

The aim is for work to be finished by 2014, but go-ahead is needed from Blacktown Council and Sydney Water, which has yet to connect the land to the water network.

A spokesperson for Fair Trading Minister Anthony Roberts said the department had found no grounds for discrimination action against the Qartaba Homes flyer.

Why would ANY Australian Government deliberately import into Australia these people? People who tell us they are to destroy us by any means possible using OUR Taxes and the Labor Green Loons "Progressive's" Politically Correct Multicultural Anti Discrimination Laws



"All Cultures and Religions are equal", enter "Moderate Islam"

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What makes the "Mufti of Sydney's Occupied Territories and his fellow insurgents "feel like we are on cloud nine" ?

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Why would the Australian Government help facilitate this.......

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The Australian in this Coffin.......

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Sydney under attack from Muslim Insurgents

Sydney's Occupied Territories erupt with bucket loads of Taqiya and Harmony Day Spin


Sydney's Occupied Territories:Sheik Shabbir Mohammedbhai Vaziri and Helen Magennis, charged with Female Genital Mutilation

Terror Australia: Terror Suspect admitted to Hospital with Stomach ( Period ? ) Pain

From Sydney's Occupied Territories: Sheik and a Nurse charged over Female Genital Mutilation

Terror Australis:Syrian linked Muslims arrested in Australian Terroro raid

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Sydney's Occupied Territories:Swaggering Muslim Rat with a Gold Tooth,Mahmoud Mariam, gets away with Murder sniggers and laughs at sentencing in Sydney Court.

Sydney's Occupied Territories:"...accidents are being staged,baseball bats used to add

damage to vehicles,assessors threatened or bashed,"

1982 Sydney PA (Harmony Day celebration ? ) Bombing investigation re opened

Daniel Pipes speaks with Alan Jones

Melbourne Australia:Sudanese and Somali Refugees Crime five times that of Australians and Greens call for increased refugee intake

If only it were ONLY 10,000 predominantly Muslims massing in Malaysia preparing to invade Australia

Now it's Tamil (Tiger ?) Colonization of Australia, why not ? everyone else is brought here by the Government.

From Sydney's Occupied Territories:10,000 Muslim Insurgents mass to worship Paedophile Pirate Slave Trader and Prophet "Tonight is the Laylat al-Qadr,''

The Labor Governments Islamic Colonization of Australia continues unabated

Labor Green Loons latest Illegal entrant filled boat arrives with 211 illegal's aboard


Convicted Islamic Terrorist,Belal Saadallah Khazaal, High Court of Australia denies appeal.

Pious Muslims riot and attack Police at another Harmony Day Cultural Enrichment Ramadan Holy Festival in Sydney;s Occupied Territories

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Pious Muslims Iftikhar Ahmed, 52, and his wife Farzana Murder Daughter because she was too westernised


Malek Fahd Islamic School, Ordered to repay $9 Million to Australian Tax Payers

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Islamic Sociopaths Inc. London on Terror alert ahead of Olympic Games.

Mohammed Fouani: Jilted man's plan to burn his girl alive

Indian "Cultural Enrichment" and "Harmony Day" ambassador Extradited to Australia to face Rape Charges

When too much of the Religion of Peace is barely enough : Shocking acts of Godless Satan inspired savagery..........

"All Cultures and Religions are equal", enter "Moderate Islam"

Raped girl, 15, faces flogging for sex


SMH
January 8, 2013 - 6:00AM

A 15-year-old in the Maldives whose father is accused of repeatedly raping her and killing the resulting baby risks being flogged for "fornication" with another man under the nation's strict Islamic law, a police source says.
In the course of inquiries into the rape case, investigators say they unearthed evidence of the girl having had consensual sex with another man, which is an offence in the Indian Ocean holiday destination, the source said.
Women, including minors, having consensual sex outside marriage can be charged in the Maldives, where convicts can be publicly flogged. Minors receive the punishment when they reach 18, the age of majority.
The child's stepfather is accused by police of repeatedly raping the girl and fathering a child by her which he subsequently murdered. The girl's mother has been charged with helping dispose of the infant's body, police said.

"We completed the investigation (into the murder of the infant) and gave a report to the prosecutor-general's office," Maldivian police spokesman Hassan Haneef told AFP by telephone.
He declined to give details saying that Maldivian common law did not allow the discussion of any case involving a minor.
The local Haveeru newspaper quoted an unnamed official from the prosecutor's office saying the fornication charge was unrelated to the rape, which had been separately dealt with.
The legal system of the Maldives, a nation of 330,000 Sunni Muslims known for its coral-fringed islands and sandy beaches, has elements of Islamic Sharia law as well as English common law.
The country carries out the flogging of women despite calls from the UN Human Rights Council to drop the practice.
In September, a Maldivian court ordered a public flogging for a 16-year-old girl who confessed to having pre-marital sex. Her 29-year-old lover was sentenced to 10 years in prison.
The gang-rape last month in the Indian capital of a 23-year-old student who subsequently died has also sparked protests over crime against women in neighbouring South Asian nations including Nepal, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.


Man, 90, marries 15-year old girl
Wants to sue bride after she locked herself up and fled
Emerates 24/7
By Staff
Published Monday, January 07, 2013

A Saudi man aged around 90 married a 15-year old girl, but she then locked herself up in her room for two days before fleeing back to her family, prompting threats by the man to sue her parents.

Relatives said the girl told them that she was so frightened when her bridegroom came close to her that she ran into her room and locked herself up.

“She remained inside her room for two days before sneaking out and fleeing back to her family,” the Saudi Alhayat daily said in a report from the southern province of Jazan.

The London-based newspaper quoted the man as saying he had paid SR65,000 (Dh64,000) dowry (money paid by a man to his bride under Islamic law) for her Yemeni father, adding that her mother is Saudi.

“I feel that there is a conspiracy by her mother against me,” he said. “I will go to court tomorrow and demand that her parents give me back my money.”

Why would the Australian Labor Party and their Green Loon Independent "Co Party" Government insist on bringing in another 30,000 illegal,undocumented, predominantly single male Muslim Labor Green "Vote People" into Australia in 2013 ?

Labor Greens Independents we know who is paying you, now come clean and tell us who you are working for.

Close Up with Vernesa Toroman and Sophie Kalantzis

Shire girls Vernesa Toroman and Sophie Kalantzis back for a close-up

ZOE NAUMAN
The Sunday Telegraph 
January 06, 2013 12:00AM

THEY'RE the pumped up, botoxed, surgery-enhanced besties who stole the show when they appeared on Channel 10's The Shire.

A recent encounter with a couple of "Fans" led to charges been laid against their knife wielding attacker and her accomplice, Court action pending.

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Now Vernesa Toroman and Sophie Kalantzis are set for a new reality show - and this time it's all about them.

"We can't give away too much," Kalantzis, 27, said. "But it is what you could call a fish-out-of-water reality show."

Toroman, 28, added: "It's all about us. It's always about us."

The two women, now living at Rhodes in Sydney's inner west, endured a vicious Twitter campaign when The Shire aired.

"The one that always stays with me is, 'You two should have your uteruses pulled out and not allowed to reproduce," Toroman said. "That was really evil, how can people think of that? You don't even know me."

Kalantzis said: "We call them keyboard warriors. These people spend half of their lives on a social network hating on us. It just says a lot more about them than us."
Kalantzis said they have now built up a positive fan base because people warm to them when they meet them in person.

"I think when they meet us in real life they just love us," she said.

"They are quite shocked about what we are like. People who saw us on the TV were quick to judge, but when they actually meet us they say we are so sweet. You can't hate on us."

Both women have had breast enhancements, and Toroman joked her New Year's goal was to "make my boobs touch my chin".

Since leaving the show life has been an "amazing" whirlwind of promotions, including a nasal hair wax kit for men, as well as maintaining their fat "cavitation" business for slimming women's bottoms and thighs.

Sydney's Occupied Territories: Omar Abukhaled,27,was refused bail yesterday over the assaulting police and resisting arrest

Sydney's Occupied Territories Omar Abukhaled,27,was refused bail yesterday over the assaulting police and resisting arrest

Various sources compiled by ANV
5 Jan 2013.

Two constables dealing with an apprehended violence order against a 27-year-old on parole in Sydney's west were allegedly spat on and punched.

The man and his partner, a 46-year-old woman, were subsequently charged with assaulting police and resisting arrest after the attack at a unit in Carramar on Thursday at 1.40pm, police said.

Police said the woman threw a glass vase at a female officer, missing her, then struck her in the face and grabbed her around the throat. That officer received a black eye in the struggle.
Fairfield Inspector Raven Maharaj said the two officers are "fine and just suffering minor injuries."

"Unfortunately this happens quite a bit," he said. "Police attend to serve a brief or follow up a complaint that someone is breaching an AVO then it turns ugly when police arrive".

Police allege that as they attempted to arrest the man the woman grabbed one of the officers, while the man Omar Abukhaled,struck the other on the back of his head and spat in his face.

When other officers arrived, the man and woman were arrested.
The male police officer was taken to Liverpool Hospital for treatment and has since been released.

They were treated at the scene for minor injuries by paramedics before being taken to Fairfield Police Station.

Omar Abukhaled was charged with assaulting police, resisting arrest and breaching bail and was refused bail to appear at Parramatta Bail Court on Friday.
During his appearance in Parramatta Bail Court on Friday Omar Abukhaled he was refused bail and ordered to reappear at Fairfield Local Court next month.
The woman was charged with assaulting police and resisting arrest and was given strict bail conditions to appear at Fairfield Local Court on February 6.

Paedophilia Progressive says "It is the quality of the relationship that matters""

Guardian: Paedophiles are 'ordinary members of society' who need moral support

By Damian Thompson
Telegraph.co.uk
January 3rd, 2013

Britain's most persecuted minority have found a new advocate. An article this morning in the Guardian by feature writer Jon Henley addresses misconceptions about paedophiles, quoting one "expert" who believes that: "It is the quality of the relationship that matters".
No, this is not not some sick send-up on my part. "If there's no bullying, no coercion, no abuse of power," says Tom O'Carroll, "if the child enters into the relationship voluntarily … the evidence shows there need be no harm."

O'Carroll is a former chairman of the Paedophile Information Exchange with a conviction for distributing indecent photographs. The Guardian acknowledges this, but gives him a respectful hearing and points out that "some academics do not dispute" his views. For example:
A Dutch study published in 1987 found that a sample of boys in paedophilic relationships felt positively about them. And a major if still controversial 1998-2000 meta-study suggests – as J Michael Bailey of Northwestern University, Chicago, says – that such relationships, entered into voluntarily, are "nearly uncorrelated with undesirable outcomes".
Most people find that idea impossible. But writing last year in the peer-reviewed Archives of Sexual Behaviour, Bailey said that while he also found the notion "disturbing", he was forced to recognise that "persuasive evidence for the harmfulness of paedophilic relationships does not yet exist".

Remember  "It is the quality of the relationship that matters".

One of Australia's most infamous Paedophiles Dennis Ferguson.

Henley attaches a lot of weight to the views of Sarah Goode, a senior lecturer at the University of Winchester:
For Goode, though, broader, societal change is needed. "Adult sexual attraction to children is part of the continuum of human sexuality; it's not something we can eliminate," she says. "If we can talk about this rationally – acknowledge that yes, men do get sexually attracted to children, but no, they don't have to act on it – we can maybe avoid the hysteria. We won't label paedophiles monsters; it won't be taboo to see and name what is happening in front of us."

We can help keep children safe, Goode argues, "by allowing paedophiles to be ordinary members of society, with moral standards like everyone else", and by "respecting and valuing those paedophiles who choose self-restraint". Only then will men tempted to abuse children "be able to be honest about their feelings, and perhaps find people around them who could support them and challenge their behaviour before children get harmed".
I'll leave you to make up your minds about this argument, but here's a point to bear in mind. It was precisely this sort of "enlightened" attitude that persuaded Catholic bishops in the 1980s to adopt a mild, nuanced approach to suspicions of clerical paedophilia.

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Dennis Ferguson's last words: 'This will show them'

CAROLINE MARCUS

The Sunday Telegraph

January 06, 201312:00AM

PAEDOPHILE Dennis Ferguson chose to end his own life by suddenly stopping his diabetes medication, telling supporters he blamed police for making his life a living hell.

"This will show them," Australia's most notorious sex offender said in the days before he died at his Surry Hills flat, a Department of Housing property on Poplar Ave, a stone's throw from Sydney Grammar and other schools and childcare centres. His body laid undiscovered for several days before being found last Sunday.

Ferguson's biggest advocate, the Justice Action group campaigner Brett Collins, says police continuously "undermined" the 64-year-old's efforts to redeem himself and tipped off media about his whereabouts on at least two occasions.

"He said to people (when he stopped taking insulin), 'That will show them'," Mr Collins said.

"What we're saying is Dennis Ferguson was killed by the police."

Police last week said the circumstances surrounding Ferguson's death were not suspicious.

Friends say Ferguson left no suicide note and was feeling confident about his upcoming court case, after being caught trying to sign up to do volunteer work with children in Bondi Junction in October and November.

The Sunday Telegraph can reveal Ferguson had been living in a 10th-floor unit for at least two years, within walking distance of five childcare centres and eight schools, including one for children with special needs, in Bourke St. His public housing was being subsidised by taxpayers, with Housing NSW charging rent of between 25-30 per cent of his disability pension.

Ferguson, who was jailed for kidnapping and sexually assaulting two boys and a girl in 1987 in company with other men, was born legally blind.

He was admitted to St Vincent's Hospital on December 14 for 10 days with a bladder infection but was discharged.

Why did the experts locate this man in amongst so many children,what were they doing?

 Jian-Carlo Destefano, a 20-year-old student whose father lives on the same floor where Ferguson resided, said his dad had warned his neighbour to stay away from his two sons.

"We generally stayed away from him whenever we saw him," Mr Destefano said. "He was kind of hermit-ish."

Another neighbour, who did not want to be identified, said while some tenants wanted Ferguson out of the building once they found out he was living there, others pitied him.

"It must have been Christmas Eve and I came home and found some biscuits in front of my door and I knew it was him," the neighbour said. "Some people tried to start some altercations but were put down by others who felt sorry for the man."

Public sentiment towards Ferguson was far from sympathetic. Former neighbour Sean Killgallon - who famously made a coffin for Ferguson when he found out he was living in his Ryde street in 2009 - expressed relief over his death. "I'm just happy that he's not going to prey on young, innocent children anymore," Mr Killgallon said.

Ferguson's latest court case represented the second time he had been caught trying to land charity work that could put him in contact with children, after The Daily Telegraph revealed he was selling biscuits for the RSPCA under a false name. The charity has overhauled its screening policy as a result.

Sydney Occupied Territories Insurgency Nashville - Sydney gun supply route, Nafaf Chaouk & Mohamed Metleg bail refused

Gun traffic accused facing 40 years' jail

Brenden Hills 
The Daily Telegraph
January 05, 2013 12:00AM

TWO men accused of being part of an illegal international gun shipping operation between the US and Australia face up to 40 years in jail.

US Link in arming of Insurgents in Sydney's Occupied Territories?

Magistrate Michael Morahan told Nafaf Chaouk and Mohamed Metleg of the possible maximum sentence they face when they appeared in Parramatta Local Court yesterday, accused of being part of the "gun supply route" between Nashville, Tennessee, and Sydney.

The pair will spend at least 35 days behind bars after Mr Morahan refused their bail application yesterday.

They were arrested on Thursday after US authorities asked Australian police to detain them for extradition to the US to face charges.

Chaouk, 44, (a resident of Guilford a suburb of Sydney's Occupied Territories)was arrested while working as a plasterer in Mona Vale on the northern beaches while Metleg, 31, was arrested at Mascot.

It followed a lengthy multi-national investigation into the alleged gun supply route.

NSW police and Australian Customs and Border Protection Service have been working on the investigation with the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and the US Drug Enforcement Administration since 2011.

The agencies had been investigating the illegal importation of firearms to Sydney from Nashville for several months and believe 20 guns have been sent to Sydney.

One of the handguns was seized along with six other firearms during a search warrant at Fairfield in January last year. Three people were also arrested in the US.

Chaouk's lawyer Tony Newton told the court he had only been given a basic outline of the US charges which related to "firearms and cocaine"."If they are being detained they are entitled to know exactly what they are charged with," Mr Newton said.

"The facts (provided) show no detail with what they have been charged with."

US Link in arming of Insurgents in Sydney's Occupied Territories?

NSW arrests over US gun ring

The Daily Telegraph 
January 04, 2013 12:00AM

TWO men wanted for firearms and drugs offences in the US have been arrested in Sydney.

The men, aged 31 and 44, were detained by NSW police yesterday following requests from US authorities for their provisional arrest pending their extradition.

Yesterday's arrests follow an investigation into an alleged illegal gun supply route operating between Nashville, Tennessee and Sydney.

NSW police and Australian Customs and Border Protection Service have been working on the investigation with the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) and the US Drug Enforcement Administration since last year.

In October 2012, officers from the NSW police firearms and organised crime squad and Australian Customs were present during raids by the ATF in Nashville, which resulted in a number of arrests.

The multi-agency investigation is ongoing.

Sydney's Occupied Territories : Pious Muslim Mehanna family Bailed after

Police used "excessive force" in dealing with a dispute involving members of a western Sydney family accused of assaulting officers, a court has been told.

Ninemsn
Jan.3 2013

Members of the Mehanna family have been charged with assaulting police, resisting police and affray after police responded to reports of a domestic incident at their home in Bankstown, in Sydney's west, at 12.30am (AEDT) on Wednesday.
Police allege members of the family assaulted officers after they were called to the scene.

Seven NSW Police officers assaulted in Sydney's Occupied Territories by Muslim Family aka. Labor's Vote People

As police were in the driveway preparing to leave, a family member allegedly punched a probationary constable, giving him a black eye, police said on Wednesday.
The remaining family members allegedly joined the assault on the officer before other officers came to his aid.
On Thursday, five members of the family were granted bail after appearing via an audio-visual link from the cells at Penrith police station.
As part of their bail conditions, Mohammed Mehanna and his 18-year-old triplets Ali and Zainab Mehanna and Hussain Mehanni are required to report twice a week to Bankstown police station and must live at their Bankstown address.

Another sibling, 21-year old Adele Mehanna, who is charged with affray and resisting police, was also granted bail in a separate hearing.
Appearing for Adele Mehanna, defence lawyer Greg Heathcote told the court there were "two sides to the story" and police had reacted "excessively" in dealing with the matter.
"This is a very emotive matter," he told the court.
"The case of the defence in all matters is excessive force by police.
"In trying to prevent assault on members of his family, as a result, (Adele Mehanna) was arrested.

Prosecutors opposed bail on the grounds that Adele Mehanna had prior police assault charges and five breach of bail conditions.

Appearing agitated, Mehanna interjected as the prosecution put forward its case.
"You are going to make things worse.
"It was a family argument between two girls and police pepper-sprayed my f***ing family.
That's my whole f***ing family."

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Relatives of the family in court appeared visibly upset, crying as Magistrate John McIntosh asked Mehanna to stop interrupting proceedings.
Mr McIntosh imposed strict bail conditions, including requiring Mehanna to report to Bankstown police daily and imposing a curfew between 10pm and 5am (AEDT).
Mehanna and his four other family members are due to appear at Bankstown local court on January 24.
His 41-year-old mother, who has also been charged, is due to appear Bankstown Local Court on February 13.

Mother, Rafah  Mehanna  41

Daughter Zainab 18

Father Mohamed Mehanna Mother, Rafah, 41,Ali and Hussain, and daughter Zainab 18, Adel, 21,

Father Mohamed Mehanna

ASIO Comrade Gietzelt and Comrade Hawke

ASIO claimed minister was being controlled by Soviets

TROY BRAMSTON 
The Australian
January 02, 2013 12:00AM
 

How could anyone NOT like him ?

Comrade Gietzelt

IN February 1983, just weeks before the first Hawke ministry was sworn in, ASIO believed that the new minister for veterans' affairs, Arthur Gietzelt, was possibly "a secret member" of the Communist Party and "under some form of control" by the Soviet Union.

Several months after senator Gietzelt became a minister, an ASIO agent reported in a "secret" note a conversation between Communist Party leaders Laurie Aarons and Joe Palmada that revealed senator Gietzelt was "still a financial member of the CPA" and that he was meeting Aarons "regularly".

A previously unreleased cache of ASIO files made available to The Australian provides the first documentary evidence that Mr Gietzelt, now 92, was believed to have still had close links with the Communist Party while serving as a minister.

A "secret" ASIO minute paper, dated February 18, 1983, concluded with the "possibility" that "GIETZELT is under some form of control by the Soviets. As a secret member of the CPA and a parliamentarian he would undoubtedly be of interest to the Soviets," it said.

In an interview with The Australian, former prime minister Bob Hawke said: "I just don't think it is appropriate for a (former) prime minister to discuss the nature of the conversations they had with ASIO."

Mr Hawke said he was satisfied about senator Gietzelt's loyalty to the government.

"I had no problem with any of my ministers in terms of their complete commitment to the Australian Labor Party," he said.

"I had heard there was scuttlebutt about Gietzelt; there was scuttlebutt about Tom Uren. But as far as I was concerned they were totally committed to the Labor Party."

Comrade Macken ...by Comrade Macken.

Yes I am sure they "were totally committed to the Labor Party." Comrade Hawke,as are you and all members of the ACTU GetUp funded ALP,but the Australian Labor Party is not the Australian People, it is not representative of the aspirations of the Australian people it is unashamedly committed to the objectives of International Socialism aka.Socialist aka Communist World Government, or is Comrade Macken lieing?

ASIO maintained its interest in senator Gietzelt's alleged communist linkages as the Hawke government came into office and while senator Gietzelt was serving as a minister.

Two days before the March 5, 1983 election, which swept Labor into government, ASIO completed an examination of its extensive files on senator Gietzelt, who had been a member of the upper house since 1971. "An examination of the GIETZELT file leads to the conclusion that he was and probably remains a secret member of the Communist Party of Australia," notes a minute paper labelled "top secret".

Another "secret" file note prepared in April 1982, during the Fraser government, documents senator Gietzelt's association with the Communist Party between April 1976 and November 1981.

It reports that Aarons, the then national secretary of the Communist Party, described senator Gietzelt as "the CPA's official parliamentary co-ordinator in Canberra between 1972 and 1975" -- the term of Gough Whitlam's Labor government.

It also notes that senator Gietzelt "was a secret member of the CPA" in 1969 or 1970, and also in 1979 that he "is a dual ticket holder (CPA/ALP) and is the main key of influence of the CPA in the left wing of the ALP".

In the March 1983 document, ASIO notes that while the source material on senator Gietzelt's secret involvement in the Communist Party stretched for at least four decades, it could not be certain that he "was a secret party member", even though earlier and later ASIO documents suggest that he was.

ASIO's files cover his alleged involvement with the Communist Party from the 1940s to at least the 1980s, and include extensive agent reports, informant reports, photos and films outlining a secret role in organising for the CPA inside the Labor Party.

Several ASIO files concerning senator Gietzelt's Communist Party linkages remain unreleased. Several documents that have been released have many redactions throughout.

When contacted by The Australian on Monday, Mr Gietzelt refused to respond to the ASIO claims in the new documents. When contacted by The Australian in 2010, Mr Gietzelt denied that he was a member of, or an organiser for, the Communist Party.