Flannery & Monbiot backflip “We don't actually know why the current cooling is occurring because the current modelling doesn't reflect it. We can't pretend we have perfect knowledge - we don't.”

 

Sorry Mr Flannery. Computer says no

CUT & PASTE
The Australian
November 25, 2009 12:00AM

Tim Flannery on Lateline, June 10, 2005: The general patterns that we're seeing in the global circulation models - and these are very sophisticated computer tools, really, for looking at climate shift - are saying the same sort of thing that we're actually seeing on the ground. So when the models start confirming what you're observing on the ground, then there's some fairly strong basis for believing that we're understanding what's causing these weather shifts and these rainfall declines, and they do seem to be of a permanent nature.

Tim Flannery on Lateline on Monday: November 23,2009

You see these people work with models, computer models, right? So when the computer modelling and the real world disagree, you've got a very interesting problem, and that's when science really gets engaged. We don't actually know why the current cooling is occurring because the current modelling doesn't reflect it. We can't pretend we have perfect knowledge - we don't.

 

True believer George Monbiot, May 10, 2005:

It is hard to convey just how selective you have to be to dismiss the evidence for climate change. You must climb over a mountain of evidence to pick up a crumb; a crumb which disintegrates in your palm.

If only I'd been more sceptical. George Monbiot in The Guardian on Monday:

It's no use pretending this isn't a major blow. The emails extracted from the University of East Anglia could scarcely be more damaging. I am now convinced that they are genuine, and I'm dismayed and deeply shaken by them. Yes, all of us say things in emails that would be excruciating if made public. But there are some messages that require no spin to make them look bad. There appears to be evidence here of attempts to prevent scientific data from being released, and even to destroy material that was subject to a freedom of information request. Worse still, some of the emails suggest efforts to prevent the publication of work by climate sceptics, or to keep it out of a report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. I believe that the head of the unit, Phil Jones, should now resign.

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